Wii Internal Memory - External SD Card

[E-Choke]

Hi,

Sorry to post this question.

But whats the difference in use between an external SD card and the internal memory.

I know the whii has internal memory and this is where all my save games, user profiles and virtual console, wiiware, wii channels are stored.

I know have 700 blocks left, I want to know what I can do if I buy such external SD card. Can I download more games and still be able to play them ?

Thanks

E-Choke

[Joxe]

Yes you can download them and store them on the SD Card but you can't play things off the SD card. In order to play those games you need to transfer them from the SD card to the Wii's internal memory. It's bad that it is like this but it's not I who's making the rules :/

[E-Choke]

So basicly you can only use the SD card to back games, save-games and profiles up ?

Is there anything that could get loaded from the SD card ? Like save-games orso ?

I don't like to swap discs or anything, let alone start copying things whenever I want to play something :s

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Put all the games you aren't playing anymore onto the SD card and keep your internal memory free for new games. It's easy and gives you plenty of space to play any games you might still have active.

You can leave all your save data right on the Wii, since it barely takes up any space.

[Joxe]

You can use the SD card more active in some games, like SSBB lets you save pictures and replays directly onto a SD card.

[kawaiipikachu]

An 2GB card is 2048MB so natrully thats 4 time as the memory thats is in the Wii .
But theres one problem a portion of that is used for the oprating system & Wii messafge board means you arte left with less than 300MB for games & saves files so effectly a 2GB SD card would be about 5-6 times more usable storage for games & save files .

Also one other thing the Wii cant used SDHC cards as in SD cards using new protocols to acheave higher capacity limits than SD 1.0 so you got a 2 GB limit .

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

2GB is more than enough for any games I would ever be able to store. There's also nothing stopping you from using multiple SD cards or from using the old re-download trick if you run out of room on your multiple SD cards. It's an awkward solution, but no one should ever truly "run out of space" unless someone makes a single game that uses the entire internal memory.

[kawaiipikachu]

Wait till we got the storage solution update & hopefully wi can run games from SD cards .

[Angelic Lapras King]

Originally Posted by kawaiipikachu

Wait till we got the storage solution update & hopefully wi can run games from SD cards .

Nope, it only offers to download games from the shop to the SD card and faster transfer rates to and from the Wii and SD Card... T.T

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by Angelic Lapras King

Nope, it only offers to download games from the shop to the SD card and faster transfer rates to and from the Wii and SD Card... T.T

It may not nessary be the case it maybe the the whole media Missinterpret what Nintendo said & that we might end up being able to play games from the SD card after all & the only way to find out is wait till we get the update ourselves .

[Pegasus]

At the same time Nintendo never went out of its way to specifically say that games would be playable from the SD card. It would be quite nice if that was the case, but I certainly am not getting my hopes up.

Frankly, I was kind of surprised that none of these supposed game "journalists" asked about that. You'd think that should have been one of the foremost things on their mind, but it doesn't look like anyone bothered to ask that particular question. Seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by Pegasus

At the same time Nintendo never went out of its way to specifically say that games would be playable from the SD card.

Exactly. All we have them explicitly saying is that the interface/speed of transfer is improved.

[coire]

Originally Posted by Jogurt the Yogurt

Exactly. All we have them explicitly saying is that the interface/speed of transfer is improved.

Even though they might not have said that games would be directly playable from the SD Card, it still is a shame they didn't.

I run homebrew right off my micro SD card on my DS. Also, can someone explain how this is better than a Hard drive?

It's like they half-did a no-brained job. You can out Games ONTO the SD card, but getting them to play is still a process. It isn't that the process is hard, It's that it actually takes time to do, and in the lazy society we live in today, no one wants to take any time in doing it.

[kawaiipikachu]

I knew that the Homebrew community figured out how to run games thats backedup to the SD card .
If the homebrew community can figure that out im sure Nintendo should know how to do it .

[coire]

Originally Posted by kawaiipikachu

I knew that the Homebrew community figured out how to run games thats backedup to the SD card .
If the homebrew community can figure that out im sure Nintendo should know how to do it .

That's the thing, The Homebrew community can get their Homebrew Games running from Micro SD Cards and 'them thar scurvy-scrapin' pirates'* can run full commercial Portable Games from different memory cards, such as the PSP and DS, a reason why piracy is so popular. A bunch of bedroom pirates can run full games from SD cards, but Nintendo can't?


Can't... or won't? Whatever the reason, when this update comes out and I can only 'Save Games to my SD card', I'll see no reason to update, which gives me more reason to get a Freeloader and some imports I've been interested in than ever, I guess.


*Piracy is wrong. You can eat all the limes you want, but no amount will stop the scurvy in your soul...

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by coire

That's the thing, The Homebrew community can get their Homebrew Games running from Micro SD Cards and 'them thar scurvy-scrapin' pirates'* can run full commercial Portable Games from different memory cards, such as the PSP and DS, a reason why piracy is so popular. A bunch of bedroom pirates can run full games from SD cards, but Nintendo can't?


Can't... or won't? Whatever the reason, when this update comes out and I can only 'Save Games to my SD card', I'll see no reason to update, which gives me more reason to get a Freeloader and some imports I've been interested in than ever, I guess.


*Piracy is wrong. You can eat all the limes you want, but no amount will stop the scurvy in your soul...

Don't bother getting a freeloader as there are forced software updates on the game discs as well which some of the latest games should have the freeloader blocking 3.3 update as well .

Thats the reason that never bothered getting i knew nintendo will block it just like they did with the gamecube versions .

[coire]

Originally Posted by kawaiipikachu

Don't bother getting a freeloader as there are forced software updates on the game discs as well which some of the latest games should have the freeloader blocking 3.3 update as well .

Thats the reason that never bothered getting i knew nintendo will block it just like they did with the gamecube versions .

Apparently, if you put the Freeloader in before you put the game in, it will bypass the update. Also, according to CodeJunkies UK, The Gamecube Freeloader works on the Latest Wii Firmware, can anyone confirm this? (Sorry for the off topic)

Anyway, this solution is no where near as good as a hard Drive and if I cared more, I would find it pretty ridiculous that they ever claimed it to be 'better' than a hard drive. But then again, what can you expect from Reggie, I mean, His response to E3 criticism was the existance of Animal Crossing! Though apart from the SD card rrrrigamarole, Nintendo's Press Conference is what E3 should have been.

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by coire

Apparently, if you put the Freeloader in before you put the game in, it will bypass the update. Also, according to CodeJunkies UK, The Gamecube Freeloader works on the Latest Wii Firmware, can anyone confirm this? (Sorry for the off topic)

Anyway, this solution is no where near as good as a hard Drive and if I cared more, I would find it pretty ridiculous that they ever claimed it to be 'better' than a hard drive. But then again, what can you expect from Reggie, I mean, His response to E3 criticism was the existance of Animal Crossing! Though apart from the SD card rrrrigamarole, Nintendo's Press Conference is what E3 should have been.

I didn't realise the freeloader also bypass the update but still might be best to peform the update to ensure compatibility with the lates games .

The up comming 4.o most probably be required to log in the shop channel as part of it .
Example being when they released the update for the gift feature i couldn't log on to the shop channel until i updated in fact thats how i found out about the feature the email from Nintendo came afterwards of all things .

[stardust]

Originally Posted by coire

Apparently, if you put the Freeloader in before you put the game in, it will bypass the update. Also, according to CodeJunkies UK, The Gamecube Freeloader works on the Latest Wii Firmware, can anyone confirm this? (Sorry for the off topic)

Okay, for the info of those out there, Datel released their "Works with Wii" Action Replay (the crappy version that does not allow the use of custom codes) shortly after the Wii came out, and it was blocked in August 2007.
Six months later (Feb 200, <--[Stupid Smileys] Datel releases their new "Wii Freeloader" and an updated "Works with Wii system 3.2" Action replay. System version 3.3, released in April 2008, blocks all trunca-signed game discs, thereby blocking ALL unofficial/ homebrew/ hacked game discs to date. Datel has of yet been unable to crack the official encryption protocol of Wii/GameCube discs, and I'm skeptical as to whether Datel could legally sell discs if they did crack it (due to technology patent violations), and if they did begin selling working discs, Nintendo couls still block the releases by revoking the encryption keys that each version used on a case-by-case basis. Nintendo has already blocked the Twilight Princess exploit as well as others, and it wouldn't surprize me if in the future, Nintendo created their own anti-piracy/anti-homebrew system to permanently remove unauthorized software. It would probably silently remove homebrew games/ pirated channels in the same way that antivirus/anti-malware programs removes intrusions off your computer.

Wow, that was a mouthful - basically in a nutshell, unliscensed/homebrew software days are numbered on Wii. That's exactly why people should cherish their old DS/DS-Lites - no firmware updates

[coire]

Originally Posted by stardust

Okay, for the info of those out there, Datel released their "Works with Wii" Action Replay (the crappy version that does not allow the use of custom codes) shortly after the Wii came out, and it was blocked in August 2007.
Six months later (Feb 200, <--[Stupid Smileys] Datel releases their new "Wii Freeloader" and an updated "Works with Wii system 3.2" Action replay. System version 3.3, released in April 2008, blocks all trunca-signed game discs, thereby blocking ALL unofficial/ homebrew/ hacked game discs to date. Datel has of yet been unable to crack the official encryption protocol of Wii/GameCube discs, and I'm skeptical as to whether Datel could legally sell discs if they did crack it (due to technology patent violations), and if they did begin selling working discs, Nintendo couls still block the releases by revoking the encryption keys that each version used on a case-by-case basis. Nintendo has already blocked the Twilight Princess exploit as well as others, and it wouldn't surprize me if in the future, Nintendo created their own anti-piracy/anti-homebrew system to permanently remove unauthorized software. It would probably silently remove homebrew games/ pirated channels in the same way that antivirus/anti-malware programs removes intrusions off your computer.

Wow, that was a mouthful - basically in a nutshell, unliscensed/homebrew software days are numbered on Wii. That's exactly why people should cherish their old DS/DS-Lites - no firmware updates

Well, I don't plan on updating for a while now, so do you think a Freeloader is worth it's price tag? I was thinking of getting it with the Ultimate Shooting Collection, or perhaps one of the Resident Evil Remakes that are coming to Japan - Opinions appreciated.

[ZueriHB]

Originally Posted by coire

It's like they half-did a no-brained job. You can out Games ONTO the SD card, but getting them to play is still a process. It isn't that the process is hard, It's that it actually takes time to do, and in the lazy society we live in today, no one wants to take any time in doing it.

I wouldn't mind the time delay if it would be possible to copy or move ALL savegames to the SD-Card, but alas, all big savegames don't cooperate in this (Mario Kart, SSBB, Blast Works, SimCity, Nintendo Channel).

[sdf368]

^ I agree with you 100 percent..

[Yossarian]

Originally Posted by ZueriHB

I wouldn't mind the time delay if it would be possible to copy or move ALL savegames to the SD-Card, but alas, all big savegames don't cooperate in this (Mario Kart, SSBB, Blast Works, SimCity, Nintendo Channel).

This is insane and really irritating.

My gf's mum has bought a wii so we can play at Christmas and enjoy multiplayer shenanigans (Mario Kart, SSBB, GH3 etc). If we can't take an SD card with all the items we have already unlocked it means we have to do them AGAIN or else play with a limited number of characters and levels. There's no cheats either (bar GH3) to unlock content to bypass this annoyance.

[umaxtu]

Has anyone tried running a virtual console game downloaded from a site like CENSORED off an SD card on Wii 4.0 without the homebrew channel??

[Joxe]

Wouldn't click that link, most certainly something bad.

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by Joxe

Wouldn't click that link, most certainly something bad.

I agree with with you 100%

[Flamin Skull]

Yeah I wouldn't click the link of somebody who only has ONE post count! and that post was for submitting that link...
I think that's a good reason to use the BAN HAMMER or at least disallow new members to pot links until they hit 50-100 posts or something?

[Marky Vigoroth]

That link leads to a set of downloads. I checked (single-mindedly...).

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

So the question is "Can you download a pirated Virtual Console game, load it onto an SD card, and trick the Wii into playing it without using the Homebrew Channel?" I dunno.

[Stratos]

Originally Posted by Jogurt the Yogurt

So the question is "Can you download a pirated Virtual Console game, load it onto an SD card, and trick the Wii into playing it without using the Homebrew Channel?" I dunno.

No. The Wii uses a 'ticket download system' that marks each game to only work on your Wii. You need a lot more that the game file to pull that off and more than the HBC. I understand the creators of the HBC strongly dislike piracy and will not allow it to be even mentioned on their site. I also dislike piracy because you are directly hurting developers and actively working to prevent them from making new games. There is no justification for stealing WW/VC games so you shouldn't do it. Plus Nintendo reserves the right to erase/break anything on your Wii that is not legit. Read their TOS if you don't believe me.

[SKTTR]

Originally Posted by Stratos

I also dislike piracy because you are directly hurting developers and actively working to prevent them from making new games.

Piracy hurts the gamer.

Once started, Pirates download hundreds of games for free..
and soon you have no real motiviation to master one of those.
Many excellent game games go down the drain.

There's no smell of box and packing, no feeling and reading the instruction booklet. No real sense of accomplishment if you beat one of those.

The Pirate begins to suck and pretends his list of games is all original.

[Tull]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

Piracy hurts the gamer.

Once started, Pirates download hundreds of games for free..
and soon you have no real motiviation to master one of those.
Many excellent game games go down the drain.

Your points is almost flawless,
since it applies to my backlog(exept the free part) too

Originally Posted by SKTTR

There's no smell of box and packing, no feeling and reading the instruction booklet. No real sense of accomplishment if you beat one of those.

My VC/WW titles dont smell

: - )

[SKTTR]

Originally Posted by Tull

Your points is almost flawless,
since it applies to my backlog(exept the free part) too


My VC/WW titles dont smell

: - )

VC/WW is different though.
We pay for the games we want in hope that we will own them forever on a console that we can play forever (or at least transfer the downloaded games to the next Nintendo console)
We hope to have a digital collection of many of the best games.
I'd wish they would have a scan of the original boxart with every game though, but at least there is a virtual instruction booklet in all VC games. The experiences are not 100% in some of those games, with no Rumble Support , or games like Secret of Mana that originally was bundled with a colorful walkthrough book now has just a generic virtual manual.
It seems much of those games is cheap emulation, just re-loading the program code into the Wii, but with no love for the details that surrounded a product.

Got swept away.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

VC/WW is different though.
We pay for the games we want in hope that we will own them forever on a console that we can play forever (or at least transfer the downloaded games to the next Nintendo console)
We hope to have a digital collection of many of the best games.
I'd wish they would have a scan of the original boxart with every game though, but at least there is a virtual instruction booklet in all VC games. The experiences are not 100% in some of those games, with no Rumble Support , or games like Secret of Mana that originally was bundled with a colorful walkthrough book now has just a generic virtual manual.
It seems much of those games is cheap emulation, just re-loading the program code into the Wii, but with no love for the details that surrounded a product.

Got swept away.

Roger Daltry says the same thing about digital music downloads compared to full-size music albums.

[umaxtu]

thank you very much

[giantbarcelona]

I want to download wii games? but I don't know how. Can any one help me.
Thanks much.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by giantbarcelona

I want to download wii games? but I don't know how. Can any one help me.
Thanks much.

This site does not condone software piracy, so no one here is going to help you download retail Wii games. Sorry.

I'll also be removing the links in your signature. Just a heads up. Feel free to change your signature to something non-piracy related in the meantime.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

Piracy hurts the gamer.

Once started, Pirates download hundreds of games for free..
and soon you have no real motiviation to master one of those.
Many excellent game games go down the drain.

There's no smell of box and packing, no feeling and reading the instruction booklet. No real sense of accomplishment if you beat one of those.

This is actually a very good point. Some time ago, before the age of virtual consoles and long after the death of the 16 bit market I downloaded the entire SNES library to play on a modded console I had via emulators.

Although myself and my flatmates had some fun now and again with them we never really spent any invested time with the games and never seemed to play one for more than 10 minutes.
The temptation was just to dismiss the game as soon as it got hard/frustrating and load up something else.

I also felt no real attachment to the games themselves as i'd never invested anything in them other than an hour of downloading.

I've since bought a modded SNES that runs in 60hz and plays multi region carts and am having alot more fun buying the old games for that and the VC because now I'm properly investing time in these games instead of just playing 50 different titles in the space of an hour and enjoying non of them.

I also get a sense of achievment (linked to backloggery, albeit) when I beat them which I don't think I ever would have got with the roms (even though VC games are really just roms).

[Tommy]

I bought an M3 for my DS, did I enjoy it? God no...

I'm not sure why, but when you buy the legit copy of a game, it's just a hell of alot more enjoyable.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by Tommy

I bought an M3 for my DS, did I enjoy it? God no...

I'm not sure why, but when you buy the legit copy of a game, it's just a hell of alot more enjoyable.

Arn't there other benefits of DS flash carts though? Such as homebrew?