Contra 1 plz

[slavko123496]

Originally Posted by Ouenben

And meanwhile if you look at your posts you can see what a dumbass you are!

Indeed, I want to be dumbass at least on internet, my parents expect Bill Gates out of me!

[LinkFanatic]

isn't Contra Rebirth better than the original NES one? or do you all want it for nostalgic purposes?

[sponge]

Originally Posted by LinkFanatic

isn't Contra Rebirth better than the original NES one? or do you all want it for nostalgic purposes?

!!??!?!!??!!!!

no, no way! rebirth is spectacular, but the original will always be the best.

plus rebirth plays more like contra 3, like a super nintendo game. which is great, but its not the NES game at all.

one of the first disappointments with the VC, for me.... back when i first started noticing how many games that are NOT on it....

[LinkFanatic]

Originally Posted by sponge

!!??!?!!??!!!!

no, no way! rebirth is spectacular, but the original will always be the best.

plus rebirth plays more like contra 3, like a super nintendo game. which is great, but its not the NES game at all.

one of the first disappointments with the VC, for me.... back when i first started noticing how many games that are NOT on it....

I really liked Contra 1, I just thought the Rebirth was a remake or something. Glad I didn't dl it...i definitely want Contra 1

[Tull]

NES Contra plz. My feelings is way stronger for it than the xblabla one.
Nostalgia FTW!

Originally Posted by LinkFanatic

Glad I didn't dl it...

Im shad your missing out

[slavko123496]

Originally Posted by LinkFanatic

isn't Contra Rebirth better than the original NES one? or do you all want it for nostalgic purposes?

NOSTALGIA of course

[Spectro]

Originally Posted by LinkFanatic

isn't Contra Rebirth better than the original NES one? or do you all want it for nostalgic purposes?

I could think of dozens of games that were remade into much better versions. Super Mario Bros -> Allstars, Final Fantasy -> Dawn of Souls, as well as many remakes from retro consoles to Gameboy Advance and DS. I LOVE remakes. They take great games and make them better, but there's nothing like playing the original.

[Mickeymac]

Originally Posted by Spectro

I could think of dozens of games that were remade into much better versions. Super Mario Bros -> Allstars, Final Fantasy -> Dawn of Souls, as well as many remakes from retro consoles to Gameboy Advance and DS. I LOVE remakes. They take great games and make them better, but there's nothing like playing the original.

I guess it depends on how you define "better", but I haven't come across that many remakes that truly improve on the game its based on. A lot just improve the graphics and/or make it easier, and some add a bunch of extranious content that doesn't really do much other than giving you more to do, rather than actually improving the core gameplay. I still like remakes, but there are only a handful of that I liked more than the original.

I could go on with this, but it's not topic, so I'll stop. The point here is that Contra ReBirth is not a remake by any means. It's a completely original game. Personally, I enjoyed the original game more, since the levels were easier to memorize and the bosses weren't as difficult. In fact, I liked everything in Contra 1 more than Contra ReBirth. Sure, it's more punishing, since it's incredibly difficult to clear a level with the peashooter, but if you can keep your power-ups and avoid getting hit, one life will go a long way. It just makes it a more satisfying game in my opinion.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by Spectro

I could think of dozens of games that were remade into much better versions. Super Mario Bros -> Allstars, Final Fantasy -> Dawn of Souls, as well as many remakes from retro consoles to Gameboy Advance and DS. I LOVE remakes. They take great games and make them better, but there's nothing like playing the original.

All of those remakes did was improve the graphics...They didn't make the games better gameplay wise (Dawn Of Souls added an extra dungeon or two...that doesn't count).

Originally Posted by Mickeymac

I guess it depends on how you define "better", but I haven't come across that many remakes that truly improve on the game its based on. A lot just improve the graphics and/or make it easier, and some add a bunch of extranious content that doesn't really do much other than giving you more to do, rather than actually improving the core gameplay. I still like remakes, but there are only a handful of that I liked more than the original.

I could go on with this, but it's not topic, so I'll stop. The point here is that Contra ReBirth is not a remake by any means. It's a completely original game. Personally, I enjoyed the original game more, since the levels were easier to memorize and the bosses weren't as difficult. In fact, I liked everything in Contra 1 more than Contra ReBirth. Sure, it's more punishing, since it's incredibly difficult to clear a level with the peashooter, but if you can keep your power-ups and avoid getting hit, one life will go a long way. It just makes it a more satisfying game in my opinion.

Yeah, I definetely agree. I like games that are like psuedo remakes, where they were intended to be straight remakes, but they added/changed the game a lot to the fact where it could legitamately be called a remake, not a port with better graphics (like Metroid Zero Mission or Bionic Commando Rearmed).

[Mickeymac]

Originally Posted by Refa

All of those remakes did was improve the graphics...They didn't make the games better gameplay wise (Dawn Of Souls added an extra dungeon or two...that doesn't count).

Dawn of Souls also added an MP guage, added extra story scenes, improved the menues, and also fixed some glitches that were present in the original NES game. I'd actually consider that a genuine improvement, eventhough I still greatly prefer the NES version.

You're right about All-Stars, though. That game didn't change anything for the better except maybe the graphics, and personally, I didn't even like that.

Originally Posted by Refa

Yeah, I definetely agree. I like games that are like psuedo remakes, where they were intended to be straight remakes, but they added/changed the game a lot to the fact where it could legitamately be called a remake, not a port with better graphics (like Metroid Zero Mission or Bionic Commando Rearmed).

Funny, I was even going to mention those as examples of good remakes, along with Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy 2, and...I forgot the last one. All are really good games that really managed to improve the gameplay and story in the right areas so they were more fun.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by Mickeymac

Dawn of Souls also added an MP guage, added extra story scenes, improved the menues, and also fixed some glitches that were present in the original NES game. I'd actually consider that a genuine improvement, eventhough I still greatly prefer the NES version.

You're right about All-Stars, though. That game didn't change anything for the better except maybe the graphics, and personally, I didn't even like that.

Funny, I was even going to mention those as examples of good remakes, along with Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy 2, and...I forgot the last one. All are really good games that really managed to improve the gameplay and story in the right areas so they were more fun.

Good point. All of those things were new features from the NES game. However, seing as Dawn Of Souls is a port of a remake of a port of the original, it didn't add much (first was the NES game, then the PS1 remake, then the Wonderswan port, then the GBA port).

Dragon Warrior...You mean the GBC one? Which port of FF2 are you talking about? Haven't played either of those games myself.

[Mickeymac]

Originally Posted by Refa

Good point. All of those things were new features from the NES game. However, seing as Dawn Of Souls is a port of a remake of a port of the original, it didn't add much (first was the NES game, then the PS1 remake, then the Wonderswan port, then the GBA port).

Regardless, Dawn of Souls still carries over all of the improvements from the previous versions, so it's still better than the NES original. Plus, it was the Dawn of Souls version that added the MP system, as well as added several other tweaks and stuff. So yeah, the GBA version is still an improvement.

Originally Posted by Refa

Dragon Warrior...You mean the GBC one? Which port of FF2 are you talking about? Haven't played either of those games myself.

Dragon Warrior on the GBC and FF2 on the GBA and PSP. Sorry, I was in a hurry. That's why I didn't list them before.

As a side note, Dragon Warrior on the NES was THE most tedious, frustrating, and unrewarding RPG I have ever played, and I never want to play another game like it ever again. It's just one of those games that can break your spirit, and I commend anyone who can tolerate it. The Gameboy Color version fixed everything that was wrong with the NES version, and it's actually very enjoyable.