Where are the SNES games?!?

[AjNejedi]

With the announcement of Super Mario RPG coming to Japan (and assuming it gets to US and EU) it brings the grand total of SNES on the VC to around 35 or so, and 6 of those are either DKC or Street Fighter related. Now the Super Nintendo is one of the main reasons I bought the Wii (just want the VC!) so where are the actual old-school Nintendo games? There are more TG-16 OR MD games than SNES and N64 combined. Why is Ninty pushing other consoles on us (boo to C64 and Neo Geo - the latter of which seems to have nothing but fighting games) and aren't we getting the Nintendo games that we all want? The SNES is the dream system for RPG's and we don't have nearly enough of those (really sick of puzzles and shooters). And i don't want to hear about liscencing issues, most games, besides all the Square stuff, is not liscenced out and they are just dragging their feet. And the Wii has got to be making a ton of money, pay who you need to, charge us what you need to (i'd pay 1500-2000 for the old Final Fantasy - still a bargain compared to buying it used online or remade for the DS). With Super Mario RPG, let's hope we're turning the corner. Go Ninty!

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

I don't know. I don't understand it, myself. One problem could be that there were a lot of licensed games on the SNES. Another could be that there were a lot of RPGs, which don't seem to be well represented on the VC for some reason.

On the bright side, there's room to grow (unlike the TG-16 library)!

[The shoemaker]

Thas the thing, if you bought the wii mainly for SNES, yor obviously gonna be dissopointed. And yes a lot of RPGs and other games on the SNES have licencing lissues. Also the SNES and n64 are big consoles, and to Nintendo, that means big releases, so they try to save the good ones. Plus the Virtual Console is ment for trying out the old games you missed back in the day, and because of the SNES's popularity, most people have played it. Things like the mastersystem, C64 and Neo Geo, those weren't as popular as the SNES which means Nintendo would want to get some of those out first. Also the SNES ended in like 2000, only 8 years ago, so it's not very old.

[AjNejedi]

But why should I be disappointed? That's the thing. The Wii has now been in North America for over a year and a half. A YEAR AND A HALF PEOPLE!!! Around 35 games from the SNES in a year and a half? I mean I understand the idea of limiting releases and building up a sense of demand, but I mean they have to know that some of the games they're releasing (volleyball???) aren't going to have a good reception, so why waste their time?
And, like I said and maybe I'm alone in this but, I would pay 1500-2000 points for games that they are having liscencing issues with. It will cost them MINIMAL money and effort to port them to the VC, so it is a purely profitable situation for them. Once again, I don't mean to complain, but I haven't downloaded a game since February. There are lots that I want that are available, and I'll get them once they release something I REALLY want. That's where there strategy is backfiring because I know I'm not alone in this. I wait for ONE i really want then get 4000-6000 points and go on a spree. Right now, if they release Earthbound or Super Mario RPG, I will also get FFCC: My Life as a King, Phantasy Star 2, a Sonic game (beacuse i need to get one to try it out), and maybe Lost Winds. But they need to put something out that is a definite buy before I take chances on games I've never played before.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by AjNejedi

But why should I be disappointed?

Why not? Who expected Nintendo to slam every SNES game onto the VC within a year? No one. They certainly didn't lead anyone to believe that that would be the VC's purpose (not me or anyone I know, anyway). So if people got the Wii because of those expectations, then they're being disappointed by their own unreasonable (because unfounded) expectations, not by Nintendo. If I buy a Ford hatchback and it doesn't fly me to the moon, I don't get angry at Ford. If I do, I'm an idiot.

[KeeperBvK]

The thought that we had way too few SNES games on the VC ocurred pretty often to me, but then again I'm always grateful, that at least they are all good or even great. There are so many crappy games out there for the SNES, but the VC doesn't come anywhere near them. So if it stays this way, we won't be getting that many titles for it, but at least we'll be getting the best in a reasonable time frame...except for most Square RPGs for example.

[AjNejedi]

Originally Posted by Jogurt the Yogurt

So if people got the Wii because of those expectations, then they're being disappointed by their own unreasonable (because unfounded) expectations, not by Nintendo. If I buy a Ford hatchback and it doesn't fly me to the moon, I don't get angry at Ford. If I do, I'm an idiot.

Yes, you're right. That's the same thing. Dummy me I expected Nintendo to release Nintendo games and not a bunch of crappy TG-16 and MD games, how could I have been so stupid. You're example just doesn't make sense. If you bought a car and it didn't drive anywhere then that would be the same as buying a NINTENDO Wii and not getting the NINTENDO games you were hoping for. And I'm not saying release them all at once, but quite a few have been rated for months now and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a few to come out now and then. There have been six in 2008 (US) and not one has been an RPG. We've gotten a third street fighter, another puzzle game, another shooter, an action shooter, a wierd import platformer, and Harvest Moon (which I was happy about). I'm not asking for the world here...

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by AjNejedi

Yes, you're right. That's the same thing.

I know.

Originally Posted by AjNejedi

Dummy me I expected Nintendo to release Nintendo games and not a bunch of crappy TG-16 and MD games, how could I have been so stupid.

I don't know. Maybe you bumped your head as a child. Try out some of those TG-16 and MD games! Also note that Nintendo is releasing plenty of Nintendo games on the Wii! It is a Wii, after all.

Originally Posted by AjNejedi

You're example just doesn't make sense. If you bought a car and it didn't drive anywhere then that would be the same as buying a NINTENDO Wii and not getting the NINTENDO games you were hoping for.

Actually, my example makes perfect sense. Don't buy a product solely on the basis of self-hyped features that weren't advertised. Here's an even more generous example! If a car company advertised better gas mileage, and I got super excited and bought the car primarily for that reason, but then became frustrated and upset when I found I wasn't getting 450 miles per gallon, then I would be an idiot. No one promised you those games. You're upset because your expectations were unaligned with the product you consumed.

Originally Posted by AjNejedi

And I'm not saying release them all at once, but quite a few have been rated for months now and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a few to come out now and then. There have been six in 2008 (US) and not one has been an RPG. We've gotten a third street fighter, another puzzle game, another shooter, an action shooter, a wierd import platformer, and Harvest Moon (which I was happy about). I'm not asking for the world here...

No, what you're asking for is for things to suit exactly your tastes. There are other Wii consumers out there. The third Street Fighter is the best one on the SNES. Super Mario RPG was just announced for Japan. Earthbound was ESRB rated. Get ready to ride the tide of the exact kind of SNES games you want, baby, because it's gonna be a heck of a year! Wooooo!

[Firebrand]

Yeah, the SNES was known for its RPGs and we haven't seen too many of those. Of course, the NES was known for its platformers and they've been rather scarce too.

Hey, at least shooter fans have nothing to complain about. Except for the absence of Life Force!!!

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by Firebrand

Hey, at least shooter fans have nothing to complain about. Except for the absence of Life Force!!!

Trust me, everyone can find something to complain about. Personally, I think life's too short.