PS3 or XBox360?

[vitadellajan]

I am thinking of buying one of them but i don't know which one to get. I am used to the playstation paddles. I know Xbox has Halo which is a plus for that. But I also want to use it as a computer in my bedroom. So which ever one is better at online. Just give me your reasons why you like one of them.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

This thread has the danger of degenerating into fanboy ranting, so I'll stick with a couple main points.

1. You pay for online capabilities on the 360. Online is free on PS3.

2. The single most important thing that should influence your decision is the games you like. Take a look at the list of games that are out and coming out on either system. This is highly subjective! Some people love way more 360 games than PS3. Personally, I can only think of 1-2 XBox games I'd like to have compared with 10+ on PS3.

3. What do your friends play? Online play is a component, and you've already mentioned going online, so if you have a lot of buddies who use one of the other, think about that.

[Betagam7]

I agree with Jogurt that the only real criteria should be what games you want to play.
My reason for buying a 360 was to have a high powered alternative to the Wii and to play GTA4, Dead Rising and a couple of other exclusives. I don't think there is a great deal of difference between the machines in terms of graphical ability. On the other hand as a big Quantic Dream fan I really want to play Heavy Rain and anything by Team ICO so I may have to buy a PS3 at some point.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the PS3 offer free online gaming? I've never gotten into online gaming on Xbox 360 because I don't see why I should pay to play.

[Joxe]

PS3 is totally free for online play and Sony hosts dedicated servers for their more popular games while Microsoft lets the clients take care of that.

As a console itself the PS3 is far lot better than the 360 both in specs and what you'll get for your money, but in the end it doesn't really matter since as both the posters above me mention what really matters is what games you're interested in and what console your friends have. I can say from personal experience that playing with friends that you know beats everything else that you can get within online gaming. Of course, that's not said you can get new friends online but battling out against or along with your friends is loads of fun.

[the_blunderbuss]

Where are you located?

The question is more relevant than you might know. For instance, I'm in Argentina and as of now there are official distribution for both the PS3 and the Wii but not the 360. Even with the improvements that have been done to the architecture of the console it still has a worrying failure rate (I don't have any figures with me) and making sure that you have a working warranty might be important for you.

... of course, everything breaks at some point, just some things seem to break sooner than others.

As far as other considerations go, games that you want and what your friends have (which console) are at the top of the list. Paid online is something that I'm not very comfortable with (I come from the PC crowd and you know how the idea of implementing Xbox type of online fared there...) and so far I haven't had any complaints about PS3 servers. Regrettably I can't comment on the Xbox 360 as I don't have one yet.

[LinkFanatic]

I wouldn't be much help. I would say both. Properties are on PS3 that aren't on 360, and vice-versa...you DO have to pay for online with the 360, but the experience between the two squeaks out towards 360 (their software for online has a few years on Sony's Home)...Jogurt has the best insight on this one...it ultimately comes down to what you are looking for in a game system and what your friends have, and the way you choose to play. I like single-player games and am not big on online stuff (exceptions are fights and racing), but I go online for the VC ALOT...just an example

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by the_blunderbuss

Where are you located?

The question is more relevant than you might know. For instance, I'm in Argentina and as of now there are official distribution for both the PS3 and the Wii but not the 360. Even with the improvements that have been done to the architecture of the console it still has a worrying failure rate (I don't have any figures with me) and making sure that you have a working warranty might be important for you.

... of course, everything breaks at some point, just some things seem to break sooner than others.

As far as other considerations go, games that you want and what your friends have (which console) are at the top of the list. Paid online is something that I'm not very comfortable with (I come from the PC crowd and you know how the idea of implementing Xbox type of online fared there...) and so far I haven't had any complaints about PS3 servers. Regrettably I can't comment on the Xbox 360 as I don't have one yet.

I Agree that paying for online really does suck and I wonder how much longer Microsoft is going to keep it that way when all the current alternatives are free (hell even the Dreamcast outside of PSO was free).

It even costs (a not inconsiderable amount of money) to change your gamertag. Ridiculous really.

[Diebythesword]

Just get a PS3. And get a 360 for Raiden Fighters and Raiden IV

[Tides of Chaos]

Originally Posted by LinkFanatic

I like single-player games and am not big on online stuff (exceptions are fights and racing), but I go online for the VC ALOT...just an example

Just to clarify, you DON'T have to pay to go online for purchasing games or anything like that on the 360. The Gold subscription is only required for things like playing co-op or competitive multiplayer online.

[evildevil97]

I own neither, however I plan on eventually getting a PS3 instead of a 360. I've heard far too many horror stories of 360s crashing and dying.

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by evildevil97

I own neither, however I plan on eventually getting a PS3 instead of a 360. I've heard far too many horror stories of 360s crashing and dying.

Yeah same here .
54.4% Faliure rate ? Its too high .
I can uderstand that theres dead lemon occasionally pops up un the production line but the 360 well i think it hit a bad season there .

[Refa]

Originally Posted by vitadellajan

I am thinking of buying one of them but i don't know which one to get. I am used to the playstation paddles. I know Xbox has Halo which is a plus for that. But I also want to use it as a computer in my bedroom. So which ever one is better at online. Just give me your reasons why you like one of them.

I'd recommend looking at the DLC games for both systems. It can be suprisingly influential.

Originally Posted by Jogurt the Yogurt

This thread has the danger of degenerating into fanboy ranting, so I'll stick with a couple main points.
2. The single most important thing that should influence your decision is the games you like. Take a look at the list of games that are out and coming out on either system. This is highly subjective! Some people love way more 360 games than PS3. Personally, I can only think of 1-2 XBox games I'd like to have compared with 10+ on PS3.

Yes.

Originally Posted by evildevil97

I own neither, however I plan on eventually getting a PS3 instead of a 360. I've heard far too many horror stories of 360s crashing and dying.

Originally Posted by kawaiipikachu

Yeah same here .
54.4% Faliure rate ? Its too high .
I can uderstand that theres dead lemon occasionally pops up un the production line but the 360 well i think it hit a bad season there .

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/

Apparently the PS3 is suffering from some hardware failure too. The part that really upsets is the (apparently) bad customer service. Anyone here gotten a broken PS3 yet?

[Lukario]

It really depends on what games you like. More best sellers are on the Xbox 360, simply because it costs less to develop on that console, but Xbox 360 has an unusually high chance of failing. I have an Xbox 360, and I am perfectly satisfied with it. I don't mind paying for online, seeing as when you get the year membership, the cost comes out to $4.12 USD a month, which is hardly anything. Plus, you get a lot more content than you will on PS3. The reality is that both have their pros and cons, but 360 has way more content, but unfortunately, most of it is gimmicky and some costs money to use.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by Lukario

It really depends on what games you like. More best sellers are on the Xbox 360, simply because it costs less to develop on that console, but Xbox 360 has an unusually high chance of failing. I have an Xbox 360, and I am perfectly satisfied with it. I don't mind paying for online, seeing as when you get the year membership, the cost comes out to $4.12 USD a month, which is hardly anything. Plus, you get a lot more content than you will on PS3. The reality is that both have their pros and cons, but 360 has way more content, but unfortunately, most of it is gimmicky and some costs money to use.

Apparently (not sure, so I...am probably wrong ) the PS3 suffers from similar hardware failures, it just hasn't been as publicized.

Not trying to convince someone against getting a PS3, just stating what I would consider to be a fact (or at least, a supposed fact).

[pdRydia]

Originally Posted by Refa

Apparently (not sure, so I...am probably wrong ) the PS3 suffers from similar hardware failures, it just hasn't been as publicized.

No one is saying it isn't. The important thing is that Xbox360s are failing at a ridiculously high rate, while PS3s are not. As stated in your link:

"Why isn't this plastered all over the news, like the RROD was?
"Because it's not as widespread as the 360's issues."

Personally, I have a 360 (not paying for online play) and I refuse to buy a PS3 till it gets backwards compatibility. 3 consoles at the TV are more than enough.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by pdRydia

No one is saying it isn't. The important thing is that Xbox360s are failing at a ridiculously high rate, while PS3s are not. As stated in your link:

"Why isn't this plastered all over the news, like the RROD was?
"Because it's not as widespread as the 360's issues."

Personally, I have a 360 (not paying for online play) and I refuse to buy a PS3 till it gets backwards compatibility. 3 consoles at the TV are more than enough.

True, but I feel that the 360 failure rate is kinda overemphasized just a tad bit....I mean, they reimburse you for your broken console. It's more than Sony does. I don't think it's a legitimate reason NOT to buy a 360.

[pdRydia]

Originally Posted by Refa

True, but I feel that the 360 failure rate is kinda overemphasized just a tad bit....I mean, they reimburse you for your broken console. It's more than Sony does. I don't think it's a legitimate reason NOT to buy a 360.

I don't think it's possible to overemphasize the fact that 1 out of every 3 Xbox360s break. Like, I could put that in big, bold, flashing neon font, with tacky animated GIFs to call attention to it, and no one would think it was overemphasized.

That said, you do bring up an important point. It's pretty stupid of Sony to try to charge $150--and shipping--to fix a supposedly rare problem that their competitor fixes (frequently) for free. I wonder if the person writing that page is correct in his suspicions that the failure rate is going to jump over the holidays.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by Lukario

Plus, you get a lot more content than you will on PS3.

I don't know. Any claim like this is only meaningful if tied back to my original statement about library preference. Content depends on preference. The only time sheer volume would matter is if someone just wanted to collect every game.

And to add to what Refa/Rydia have been talking about, no one's claiming the PS3 doesn't have its share of hardware problems. But in a straight-up comparison thread, what matters is not having zero problems, what matters is having less problems.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by pdRydia

I don't think it's possible to overemphasize the fact that 1 out of every 3 Xbox360s break. Like, I could put that in big, bold, flashing neon font, with tacky animated GIFs to call attention to it, and no one would think it was overemphasized.

That said, you do bring up an important point. It's pretty stupid of Sony to try to charge $150--and shipping--to fix a supposedly rare problem that their competitor fixes (frequently) for free. I wonder if the person writing that page is correct in his suspicions that the failure rate is going to jump over the holidays.

Didn't know it was that high. I completely agree with you on this one.

[Joxe]

The PS3 is different though when it comes to hardware failures. The first version that was released had a larger chance of breaking down with either a YLOD (Yellow Light Of Death) or that it simply couldn't read the Blu-Ray discs. The first one is presumably a similar error as the RROD since it's mostly caused by a dusty console which means that the fans in the PS3 cannot cool the system down as effective, easiest way to spot this is to listen if your PS3 has a increased noise when there's no Blu-Ray Disc in the tray.

The other problem is that the Blu-Ray reader just refuses to read your discs, this can be solved by simply changing the Blu-Ray Reader device inside your PS3 if you know someone with a spare one

Both the 360 and the PS3 has hardware failures, I think that the major difference between them is that Microsoft is still experiencing them on their third generation of 360 while Sony has solved the problem for the upcoming versions. Of course, there will still be instances with broken parts, you can't escape that as long as you deal with technology.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by Tides of Chaos

Just to clarify, you DON'T have to pay to go online for purchasing games or anything like that on the 360. The Gold subscription is only required for things like playing co-op or competitive multiplayer online.

Yes, perhaps I should have made that clear online gaming is not. Microsoft give you access to buy games online for free but to get the optimum enjoyment out of those games you'll need to get that cash out boys and girls!

Also to reitterate, having to pay the price of a game just to be able to change you online name is a joke!

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by kawaiipikachu

Yeah same here .
54.4% Faliure rate ? Its too high .
I can uderstand that theres dead lemon occasionally pops up un the production line but the 360 well i think it hit a bad season there .

It's strange how you are so willing to take on board negative stories about the Xbox 360 but are reticent almost to the point of denial to accept that Nintendo might be bricking innocent people's Wii's.

[Ouenben]

Originally Posted by pdRydia

I don't think it's possible to overemphasize the fact that 1 out of every 3 Xbox360s break. Like, I could put that in big, bold, flashing neon font, with tacky animated GIFs to call attention to it, and no one would think it was overemphasized.

That said, you do bring up an important point. It's pretty stupid of Sony to try to charge $150--and shipping--to fix a supposedly rare problem that their competitor fixes (frequently) for free. I wonder if the person writing that page is correct in his suspicions that the failure rate is going to jump over the holidays.

I don't believe it was ever as high as 66% PdRydia, though it was still ridiculously high. Hell anything over 5% for a console is too high IMO.

However while the xbox 360's reliability is worrying it's nowhere near as bad in the latest models (Jasper) Which also use less power. So if you buy a new model and check it's a jasper model before you purchase you dont have too much to worry about. Thankfully Microsoft have increased the warranty upto 3 years for the 2 main failures (3RROD and 1 Red light/E74)

Echoing most of the rest of the thread it's upto what games you want really. Take a look into the xbox 360 and PS3 libraries based on what kinda games you like and see what suits you. Both PSN and XBLA offer many great downloadable games too.

Xbox Live does unfortunately cost though if you look around you can usually get it for about £2 a month so it's not that bad in reality.
Personally I think Xbox live marketplace is much much better than the PSN store and it's free to access, you don't need Gold. There's hundreds of demos, a trial for every single indie and XBLA game, Tonnes of DLC, Movies (though they're expensive), etc...

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by Ouenben

I don't believe it was ever as high as 66% PdRydia, though it was still ridiculously high. Hell anything over 5% for a console is too high IMO.

I don't think anyone—not even kawaii, this time—has claimed the failure rate is as high as 66% in this thread.

Does MS has a good warrantee service, i.e. cover the cost of shipping back & forth, and renew the warrantee each time the service is provided, etc? If so, I wouldn't even let the RROD problem deter me from getting a 360 if it had a lot of games I really wanted. I don't mind flipping a coin, especially when the results of a bad flip can be freely fixed at the cost of a couple weeks and some inconvenience.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by Jogurt the Yogurt

I don't think anyone—not even kawaii, this time—has claimed the failure rate is as high as 66% in this thread.

Does MS has a good warrantee service, i.e. cover the cost of shipping back & forth, and renew the warrantee each time the service is provided, etc? If so, I wouldn't even let the RROD problem deter me from getting a 360 if it had a lot of games I really wanted. I don't mind flipping a coin, especially when the results of a bad flip can be freely fixed at the cost of a couple weeks and some inconvenience.

3 Year warrantly as far as I recall which is reset from every RROD. I've Had my Elite for 2 years now with no problems and to be honest I'm not really expecting any due to me playing the machine pretty sparingly. I have a hunch that the 360's that are buring out are getting some pretty hardcore usage in given that most of the statistics on failure rates are pulled from survey's conducted on hardcore gaming sites and that two of the four segments that comprise the red ring of death are there to indicate overheating!
It's not an excuse for them failing of course but I'd like to see some more representative figures.

[pdRydia]

Originally Posted by Ouenben

I don't believe it was ever as high as 66% PdRydia, though it was still ridiculously high.

1 out of 3 is not the same as 2 out of 3. Just sayin', cuz they way you say that, in reply to my quote, you're kind of implying that I said 66%--or 2 out of every 3-- Xbox360s fail.

[febsampen]

i would go for the ps3 for these reasons: It has built in wifi so you wouldn't need to connect it directly to an Ethernet cable if you have a wireless router. The PSN (playstation Network) is free to all playstation owners, and is great for online play. also the psn has the playstation store which is great for downloading free demos, videos, trailers, wallpapers and themes and psn games which only cost you little. Go and search more on the internet, many websites should have discounts in xmas time.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by febsampen

i would go for the ps3 for these reasons: It has built in wifi so you wouldn't need to connect it directly to an Ethernet cable if you have a wireless router. The PSN (playstation Network) is free to all playstation owners, and is great for online play. also the psn has the playstation store which is great for downloading free demos, videos, trailers, wallpapers and themes and psn games which only cost you little. Go and search more on the internet, many websites should have discounts in xmas time.

Doesn't the 360 have built in wifi? Not sure about that...Also, XBLA does everything PSN does (I mean in terms of capabilities, NOT actual games/material)...Just saying.

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by Refa

Doesn't the 360 have built in wifi? Not sure about that...Also, XBLA does everything PSN does (I mean in terms of capabilities, NOT actual games/material)...Just saying.

No the 360 doesnt it requires a wifi adaptor which clips on the back of the console with a small USB cable that plugs into a USB port in the back of the console .

[Ouenben]

Originally Posted by febsampen

i would go for the ps3 for these reasons: It has built in wifi so you wouldn't need to connect it directly to an Ethernet cable if you have a wireless router. The PSN (playstation Network) is free to all playstation owners, and is great for online play. also the psn has the playstation store which is great for downloading free demos, videos, trailers, wallpapers and themes and psn games which only cost you little. Go and search more on the internet, many websites should have discounts in xmas time.

Obviously Wifi is more convienent for most without routers near their xbox 360 but for those who have the choice of wired I'd certainly reccomend it over wireless.

Xbox live online play itself costs which is a bit of a jip but if you look around you can get it for £2 a month and you'll get occasional bonuses not available to silver members like demos a week early, exclusive themes etc

Other than that Xbox live content/marketplace etc is all free for any Xbox live member to use with demos, videos, movies, trailers, wallpapers, themes, XBLA games, Xbox 360 games, Indie games, Windows live messenger, facebook, twitter, last.fm, etc etc etc

The volume of content on Xbox live far exceeds that of PSN and obviously it's going to be down to opinion but I find that XBLA (xbox live arcade)'s content overall and especially this year is far far better than PSNs with the likes of geometry wars 1 + 2, doom, shadow complex (super metroid clone), splosion man, worms 2: armageddon, bankshot billiards 2, braid, bubble bobble neo, trials HD, castle crashers, duke 3d etc as well as heaps of great retro titles.

PSN does have it's PS1 classics however which is a pretty good selection of games but I'd rather buy the original disc unless it was a rare one and expensive.

[Joxe]

If you seriously are going to play online there's no other way than a wired connection, you can lose quite a deal of bandwidth and latency over a wireless connection.

[Radretrogamer]

now that the price has dropped on the 360, im really interested in getting one. 300$ is still a tough sell with all the family responsabilities i now have.

considering that i own every other system available, and the games i would be buying on the 360 will not be family friendly,.. lots of zombies.. i just dont see a purchase happening in the near future.

i bought a PS3 first because of its multiple functionalities outside of gaming. (at the time there wasnt much going on, on the gaming front)

but web-surfing and blue ray are very nice additions. and in my case, my PS3 is 100% backwards compatable (60 gig). so it was a no brainer for me.

i also added a 350gig HDD which is totally awsome!

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by Radretrogamer

but web-surfing and blue ray are very nice additions. and in my case, my PS3 is 100% backwards compatable (60 gig). so it was a no brainer for me.

i also added a 350gig HDD which is totally awsome!

Cool, I didn't realize you had a BC-PS3! I can't wait to throw my 500GB HDD into this baby and turn it into a real nice music and movie machine, too.

Unlike a lot of people, I'm not a big fan of the zombie/shootan genre, so the 360 really doesn't have a lot of appeal to me as a 2nd system. Any game I would want on it I can basically already get on the PS3, except for a couple of XBLA games that are coming to PSN next year anyway (Braid, Castle Crashers). With the PS3 finally getting some heavy hitting games onto shelves this coming year, I think I'm all set.

[Diebythesword]

Just get a PS3.

[LinkFanatic]

I really want a PS3 personally, mainly for the Blu-Ray, BUT if they can get the stupid thing to be backwards compatible, it would be a definite purchase

[SegaFan]

For me it was a very close call, they're surprisingly evenly matched with a lot of multiplatform games. I knew which ever I was going to get my first game would be Sonic 2006 and I don't regret it!

In the end I compared the exclusive games and based my decision off that, I suggest you do the same. PS3 just had the edge, the main games tipping the balance for me were Valkyria Chronicles, LittleBigPlanet, Yakuza 3 (if it makes it out of Japan), at the time I bought it Final Fantasy XIII was exclusive, and it had/has better all-round potential for more Japanese games. The 360's poor reliability record also helped make the decision easier.

I'm pleased to say non-gaming features like Blu-Ray played no part in my decision and it shouldn't if you're purely choosing the best games console.

[Refa]

You win both ways in that you can download SotN for both consoles.

[Ouenben]

Pretty funny that the guys first and what seems to be last post is asking which current gen console to buy other than the wii on a nintendo forum! He posted exactly the same thread on another forums gaming subforum that i frequent

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by SegaFan

I'm pleased to say non-gaming features like Blu-Ray played no part in my decision and it shouldn't if you're purely choosing the best games console.

They definitely did for me, but then again I wasn't just choosing the best games console.

[kawaiipikachu]

Originally Posted by SegaFan

I'm pleased to say non-gaming features like Blu-Ray played no part in my decision and it shouldn't if you're purely choosing the best games console.

Then again there are a few people out there that only has an old fashoned Standard Defenation 4:3 aspect ratio Cathode Ray Tube TV .