Status of SNES emulation

[ICEknight]

I've noticed that the SNES VC releases have been improving certain aspects of the emulation as of late.

Let's take the latest release, Super Turrican:

Originally Posted by myself, at other topic

The SNES emulation used here is finally true fullscreen (for the first time, possibly?), unlike previous recent releases like the Super Mario World update (which still cuts the bottom of the screen). It's using the composite interlace mode by default just like the SMW update, and it can't be changed either. Anyway, the framerate is very smooth and never lags, looking just like the real (50Hz) thing (except perhaps for the small blurriness the interlace makes).
The only technical flaw I've noticed would be the starting "fade-in circle" looking pixellated on its right side, but I'd need some confirmation of this not happening on real hadware. Does anybody still have the real cartridge to check it out?

I was wondering, which games have been released after the Super Mario World update? Can neither of those have the screen mode changed in the instructions manual?

And most important, is Super Turrican really the first PAL SNES VC game to do real fullscreen? (since it was really needed here, or else some words in the options menu would get cut)

[ZueriHB]

It doesn't really look more fullscreen than some other SNES-games.

Also, please check for your self about Axelay, Cybernator, Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario World and Super Turrican (See Attachements).

Should I make screenshots of every SNES-Game released on the PAL-VC?

[ZueriHB]

And here a comparison shot of Super Mario 64.

Double-Post because of 5 Attachments per post restriction.

[ICEknight]

Thanks for the pics.

Originally Posted by ZueriHB

It doesn't really look more fullscreen than some other SNES-games.

Also, please check for your self about Axelay, Cybernator, Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario World and Super Turrican (See Attachements).

Well, you can clearly see in those shots that Super Turrican is the only game that doesn't have a black border at the bottom of the screen, so it might indeed be the first tre full screen SNES game.
That border is indeed hiding part of the screen, as you can see in the SMW intro, where the bottom of the "wooden frame" isn't visible.

Should I make screenshots of every SNES-Game released on the PAL-VC?

If you have the latest releases (after the SMW update), please do.

[ZueriHB]

I just checked with the Wii Shop Channel, no Updates available for all my downloaded SNES-Titles.

[ICEknight]

I didn't mean any updated game, but any released game after January 26.


By the way, the "pixellated circle" in Super Turrican might have to do with the "pixellated light" bug in Bowser's Castle Back Door... I hope they fix both eventually, but I don't think they're even aware of that.

[WarGreymon77]

So these problems are only present in PAL VC games?

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by WarGreymon77

So these problems are only present in PAL VC games?

Yes. These speed and resolution problems aren't pertinent to the NTSC versions.

[ICEknight]

Actually, I think this fullscreen problem also happens in NTSC consoles. We'd need a screen of the NTSC title screen of Super Mario World to be sure.

[WarGreymon77]

Not to sound like a fool, but I asked because I hadn't been able to get a Wii yet, and Super Mario World is one I wanted to download. I hope it's either fixed or going to be fixed by Nintendo soon.

[ICEknight]

Originally Posted by WarGreymon77

Not to sound like a fool, but I asked because I hadn't been able to get a Wii yet, and Super Mario World is one I wanted to download. I hope it's either fixed or going to be fixed by Nintendo soon.

Well, it's a bit annoying not being able to see the very bottom of the screen, but depending on your TV you might not notice it much. Also, there's a bug in the very last secret room, where some light looks pixellated, but it only happens in one level.

Otherwise, the emulation is quite nice after the update they made, almost-fullscreen and all.

[ZueriHB]

Screenshots of Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers

[ICEknight]

Interesting, judging from the intro scene it also seems to be running fullscreen, just like Super Turrican.

[Bazoon]

True about Super Street Fighter 2.

ONLY the option menu and Intro screens runs at full screen, the actual gameplay(even from the char selection) has the horrible black boarders .

I am talking about the VC version, I don't have the SNES cart.

About Supper Turrican, I was surprised too... mabye they did change something?

[ICEknight]

Originally Posted by Bazoon

True about Super Street Fighter 2.

ONLY the option menu and Intro screens runs at full screen, the actual gameplay(even from the char selection) has the horrible black boarders .

Those seem to have been put by the programmers on purpose, back in the day. So it's correctly emulated.

About Supper Turrican, I was surprised too... mabye they did change something?

Erm.. Well, yeah, that's why I made this topic, they're slowly improving the emulators. It looks like the SNES games run fullscreen only since the release of Super Street Fighter II. Now they only have to fix the mentioned bugs with the Mode 7 and it will be almost perfect.



But anyway, they should really offer updates to all the previous games each time they improve their emulators, or we'll never have perfect emulation in the games that were released earlier.

[SKTTR]

Originally Posted by ICEknight

Those seem to have been put by the programmers on purpose, back in the day. So it's correctly emulated.


Erm.. Well, yeah, that's why I made this topic, they're slowly improving the emulators. It looks like the SNES games run fullscreen only since the release of Super Street Fighter II. Now they only have to fix the mentioned bugs with the Mode 7 and it will be almost perfect.



But anyway, they should really offer updates to all the previous games each time they improve their emulators, or we'll never have perfect emulation in the games that were released earlier.

You don't realise that SSF2 and Super Turrican on the EU VC are the same as in the original PAL SNES version. Nothing has changed in the Wii's emulation.

- SSF2 always had a fullscreen intro.

- Super Turrican was a Factor 5 game
(Factor 5 were the only ones who made "fullscreen" PAL versions of SNES games)

[ICEknight]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

You don't realise that SSF2 and Super Turrican on the EU VC are the same as in the original PAL SNES version. Nothing has changed in the Wii's emulation.

- SSF2 always had a fullscreen intro.

- Super Turrican was a Factor 5 game
(Factor 5 were the only ones who made "fullscreen" PAL versions of SNES games)

We'd need some captures from Super R-Type (or any future PAL SNES VC release) to see if you're wrong on this one.

[JonnyTanna]

I live in a pal region, but bought myself an American console for the very reason that I could never stand Pal 16-bit games. The picture quality was horrible and the boarders was horrendous.

Besides, No More Heroes is completely uncut on the American wii.. and besides, American consoles are usually the best (look at the NTSC Super Nintendo, plays both Japanese & American games).

Buy an American Console, a Freeloader (for uk games) and set your region to United States to buy Boarder-free American VC games.

Thank me later