Super Tennis/Soccer?

[johnny_d]

Any chance of these games coming out soon? Seeing as I loved both of them. Ah, the memories.

[Angelic Lapras King]

I guess so. We ve been spoilt with the NES sport games no one really cares about, so I say we re due for some SNES sporty goodness (And N64 Sporty goodness with Mario Tennis! =D)

[nintendoduffin]

I love Super Tennis, I've got it on SNES but it's just a shame none of my friends are into it because I'm only bothered about the multiplayer mode.
As for Super Soccer, I picked a copy up on eBay and I thought it was a bit weak. To be fair, I didn't play it much but I don't think it can compare to ISS Deluxe which is probably the best football game ever.

[mechanix]

SNES Sensi was nice enough (and certainly more accessible to those of us not really bothered about footie), and I always preferred smash tennis to super.

I'd also like to see NBA Jam too...

[Spinoff90]

Have both of these games and loved them as a kid so I am looking forward to VC releases of them since I can't be bothered pulling out my SNES

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Isn't there already a good Tennis game on the Wii...?

[ICEknight]

Originally Posted by johnny_d

Any chance of these games coming out soon?

Well, they were first-party releases, so I don't see why they wouldn't release them.

...But why are you asking us, anyway? It's not like we have any insider info from Nintendo.

[Angelic Lapras King]

Originally Posted by Jogurt the Yogurt

Isn't there already a good Tennis game on the Wii...?

Yes, but this is a retro 2D one. :P

[RetroNL]

Originally Posted by nintendoduffin

I love Super Tennis, I've got it on SNES but it's just a shame none of my friends are into it because I'm only bothered about the multiplayer mode.
As for Super Soccer, I picked a copy up on eBay and I thought it was a bit weak. To be fair, I didn't play it much but I don't think it can compare to ISS Deluxe which is probably the best football game ever.

ISS Deluxe is with PES 2 and I also think Sensible Soccer the best soccer game ever produced.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by RetroNL

ISS Deluxe is with PES 2 and I also think Sensible Soccer the best soccer game ever produced.

The problem with ISS Deluxe (and it is a problem) is that when one becomes really, really good at it it's possible to score several types of "cheap" goals that arn't actually stoppable, one involves cutting in from the top of the 12 year box and curling the ball around the keeper...another, even sillier one involves being able to score practically from kickoff when attacking to the right by running slightly forward to a certain spot and curling a bouncing shot beyond the keeper.

My freinds and I were so good at this game as teenagers that we had to invent a whole series of complex rules about which types of goals were "legal", cheap rebound goals which also plague this title were also a problem and also banned as was player 1 touching the pad in the build up to a penalty kick being struck in a penalty shootout as this seemed to us to cause player 2 to miss.

Actual fights used to break out about many of these issues...having said all of that though the game is by far and away the best Footy game on the home 16 bit consoles...pioneering realistic individual player models over the KKK stylings of Fifa Soccer and its all white all blonde world of Nazi supermen.

If you fancy a similar experience on Wii then I more than recommend the game Super Sidekicks 3 that appears on the SNK collection disk.

[RetroNL]

Originally Posted by Betagam7

If you fancy a similar experience on Wii then I more than recommend the game Super Sidekicks 3 that appears on the SNK collection disk.

Even when ISS has flaws it was still a good game, what I know about SSkicks games is that they are more arcady and dont feel like a real soccer game, rather its like puting Bruce Lee in a soccer suite and play, thats not a bad thing or something, still I prefer a 'real' soccer game. But thats my opinion.

Back to the flaws: Even Fifa games had those glitches which where mostly goaly errors and those where the games that werent based on arcade fun, but making a real time soccer emulation. This continues even on the day of today with the 2010 games, only the flaws are less transparant plus more difficult to see and do.
ISS was the king of soccer (even on N64 where I only bought Fifa 98 on and playing ISS 98 at friends, how dumb could I be) before PES came, I liked the PES games till part 5 or 6 I remember.
I nowadays only play the newer versions for fun at friends and not too hardcore anymore.
The games are ok, but they are just not as fun as the soccer games in the old days, Tactics are good but it musnt become too much chess. But I also think that thats the difference between the old and modern day soccer, sometimes you need to Kick and Rush baby !

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by RetroNL

Even when ISS has flaws it was still a good game, what I know about SSkicks games is that they are more arcady and dont feel like a real soccer game, rather its like puting Bruce Lee in a soccer suite and play, thats not a bad thing or something, still I prefer a 'real' soccer game. But thats my opinion.

Sure, Super Sidekicks is way more arcadey than ISS (only one half and a loose interpretation of the rules of the game) but it definately has that ISS feel about it, from the commentary to the graphics and the meaty sounding effects of a crunching tackle or hoof of the ball. I enjoyed getting all the medals in it because in the abscence of ISS it had a real ISS feel to it.

ISS meanwhile might have brought a lot of unique things to the table that ultimately helped transform footy titles into the ultra realistic simulations we see today but there's no denying it definately has arcadey elements to it and is far from a pure simulation...but then no 2D games back then really were, even the likes of kick-off.

[littlemac81]

iss deluxe was quality and i liked super soccer will any of those games be available to download for wii and konami hyper soccer on the nes was a classic game any info on these games little mac 81

[link64]

What's the PAL version of Super Tennis like is it as bad as Wave Race 64 , I'm saying this since a local shop has it on sale for £3.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by link64

What's the PAL version of Super Tennis like is it as bad as Wave Race 64 , I'm saying this since a local shop has it on sale for £3.

In terms of borders? the only game worse than Wave Race 64 I can think of is Pilotwings 64.

SNES borders were never as bad as these two N64 monstrosities. There will be borders and slower gameplay however.

[SKTTR]

Originally Posted by Betagam7

In terms of borders? the only game worse than Wave Race 64 I can think of is Pilotwings 64.

SNES borders were never as bad as these two N64 monstrosities. There will be borders and slower gameplay however.

You haven't seen Beetle Adventure Racing's borders.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

You haven't seen Beetle Adventure Racing's borders.

This makes me sad as BAM is an N64 game I always planned to seek out. Won't bother if what you say is true. I have to say I'm surprised as beyond the first generation of N64 titles there was rarely such a problem.

[Kobayashi]

In my country, soccer is by far the favorite national sport. I also really like the sport.

My favorite SNES Soccer game is Capcom´s Soccer Shootout



However, Konami´s International SuperStar Soccer Deluxe is a much more complete game

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by Kobayashi

In my country, soccer is by far the favorite national sport. I also really like the sport.

My favorite SNES Soccer game is Capcom´s Soccer Shootout

I noticed this game had a 'Great Britain' team and it made me think of another SNES football game with a Ryan Giggs label attached to it. I remember it being one of the many football games to erroneously include a 'Great Britain' team (which has never existed in real life) which was basically England with the wrong name and recall how this was one of the fist occasions that I realised celebrity endorsements mean squat as Giggs's team Wales were also in the game but for some reason had achieved independence from Great Britain

BTW, what was with the enourmous ball and continent size goalmouth in that video

[Kobayashi]

Originally Posted by Betagam7

BTW, what was with the enourmous ball and continent size goalmouth in that video

I think the ball was intentionally made large for easy viewing in the game.

The bicycle goal at 2:57 is beautiful.