Super Smash Bros. review

[R.O.B.]

Super Smash Bros. - N64

So who's your favourite Nintendo character of all time? Mario? Link? Samus Aran? Maybe Pikachu? All of these and more star in Super Smash Bros. – a riotous 3D fighting game that pits the skills of your best-loved characters against each other in thrilling tournament match-ups!The aim of the game..

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Source: Nintendo Life

[Angelic Lapras King]

And now we can move on with our lives and moan for something else, like SMK, SMW2, Disney, Lucasarts, etc.

[Tides of Chaos]

Hm...a 7? Even with two better sequels, I'd still give this an 8. It's cheaper than Melee and Brawl and it has different stages and slightly different gameplay. I just wonder how the controls are for the VC version. No NintendoLife reviews ever seem to mention them, good or bad.

[hansolo350]

Originally Posted by Tides of Chaos

Hm...a 7? Even with two better sequels, I'd still give this an 8. It's cheaper than Melee and Brawl and it has different stages and slightly different gameplay. I just wonder how the controls are for the VC version. No NintendoLife reviews ever seem to mention them, good or bad.

That's because they review roms on their computers.

[Diebythesword]

Originally Posted by hansolo350

that's because they review roms on their computers.

weak sauce

[digiki]

This game has less stuff than the sequels therefore it is worse.

Super Mario Bros. should also be a 7, it doesn't have any bells and whistles, Galaxy offers so much more.

Edit: It was nice of the review to consist of one paragraph describing the gameplay, and the rest of it to talk about the birth and popularity of the series, and how much stuff the sequels have that SSB didn't.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by digiki

This game has less stuff than the sequels therefore it is worse.

Super Mario Bros. should also be a 7, it doesn't have any bells and whistles, Galaxy offers so much more.

Edit: It was nice of the review to consist of one paragraph describing the gameplay, and the rest of it to talk about the birth and popularity of the series, and how much stuff the sequels have that SSB didn't.

Screw you. Super Mario Bros. is an amazing game, depth be moaned. And comparing SMB and SMG is pretty stupid, don't you think? One is a full priced Wii 3D platformer, whilst another is a $5 DLC VC 2D NES game. Do you have something against older games (coughFireEmblemShadowDragoncough)? No duh a sequel's going to be more advanced than the prequel, but if the prequel's a fun game in it's own right, than it deserves to get a high review score. Besides, I don't remember Super Mario World revitalizing gaming as we know it.

[noobers]

Originally Posted by Refa

Screw you. Super Mario Bros. is an amazing game, depth be moaned. And comparing SMB and SMG is pretty stupid, don't you think? One is a full priced Wii 3D platformer, whilst another is a $5 DLC VC 2D NES game. Do you have something against older games (coughFireEmblemShadowDragoncough)? No duh a sequel's going to be more advanced than the prequel, but if the prequel's a fun game in it's own right, than it deserves to get a high review score. Besides, I don't remember Super Mario World revitalizing gaming as we know it.

*whoosh*

The joke went right over your head.

[digiki]

Originally Posted by noobers

*whoosh*

The joke went right over your head.

Thank you, some people are just

Originally Posted by Refa

Screw you. Super Mario Bros. is an amazing game, depth be moaned. And comparing SMB and SMG is pretty stupid, don't you think? One is a full priced Wii 3D platformer, whilst another is a $5 DLC VC 2D NES game. Do you have something against older games (coughFireEmblemShadowDragoncough)? No duh a sequel's going to be more advanced than the prequel, but if the prequel's a fun game in it's own right, than it deserves to get a high review score. Besides, I don't remember Super Mario World revitalizing gaming as we know it.

Thank you too, you just made points in SSB favour so I didn't have to.

Also old games being sold for full price nowadays would be bothersome. Instead of giving us a good remake, Nintendo give us less content than the SNES remake, and didn't expand on the 20 year old gameplay of the original.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Refa, I know it's easy to assume Digger isn't being sarcastic, based on his long-established horrible taste, but this time he's brutally mocking NintendoLaff's horrendous review practices (which is cool by me).

Originally Posted by digiki

Also old games being sold for full price nowadays would be bothersome. Instead of giving us a good remake, Nintendo give us less content than the SNES remake, and didn't expand on the 20 year old gameplay of the original.

Those aren't points against Shadow Dragon, though, those are points against Nintendo decisions. Even considering those omissions (as you like to think of them), the game stands on its own merits. Thank God Nintendo didn't "expand" on the totally awesome 20-year-old gameplay of the original, actually. Nintendo gave us a phenomenal remake, SNES content and other ethereal expansions be damned.

[theUndead_feature]

I consistently find that I'm happy with the way games were made in the first place. SMB has not lost an ounce of playability in the 15 or so years I've spent with it and the same goes for the original smash. Sure, they don't have the same bells and whistles as the newer ones but the charm remains wholly intact.

In short, these yahoo's at NintendoLife have no idea what they're talking about.

[SKTTR]

7/10 for the best fighting game available on the VC?

For me, Super Smash Bros. even beats the VC Elite Fighting Games Top 3 that are the Samurai Shodowns, Street Fighters and International Karates.

Nothing is more fun than fighting with 3 friends.
Just like many others, the first thing I did was unlocking Ness and smashing Pikachu's little head with the bat.

[theUndead_feature]

I was damn near invincible with Mario. I remember goin' to Corneria and back tossing some mofo into the tail and catching him with a headbutt for the kill. Uh. Beautiful stuff.

[Kurachi]

Originally Posted by Angelic Lapras King

And now we can move on with our lives and moan for something else, like SMK, SMW2, Disney, Lucasarts, etc.

do you really wanna read posts like that, just to make posts about them?
waste of time imo, go and moan about games yourself, who knows it might work

its great to have this game on VC, its the only smash bros game on VC, so enjoy it

and yes, lets moan about SMK, i love that one
tbh i also "moan" about kirby's dreamland 3, cuz i want it so badly

gosh, using the word "moan" makes me feel dizzy, i better say "hope for" instead of "moan about"

[Angelic Lapras King]

Meh, its what everyone does. :P It was the reason the Internet was invented. XP

[digiki]

Originally Posted by theUndead_feature

I consistently find that I'm happy with the way games were made in the first place. SMB has not lost an ounce of playability in the 15 or so years I've spent with it and the same goes for the original smash. Sure, they don't have the same bells and whistles as the newer ones but the charm remains wholly intact.

In short, these yahoo's at NintendoLife have no idea what they're talking about.

I dunno about that, NL has taught me that more is better, in the later SSB games, you'll be unlocking stuff for weeks, it doesn't matter that the best way to do so is to repeatedly beat the 1-P modes with different characters. Those trophies and stickers really do make the games several times better.

[Tides of Chaos]

After reading digiki's posts, I officially hate internet sarcasm. Maybe I'm just tired, but I can't help but take them seriously until someone says otherwise.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by Refa

Screw you. Super Mario Bros. is an amazing game, depth be moaned. And comparing SMB and SMG is pretty stupid, don't you think? One is a full priced Wii 3D platformer, whilst another is a $5 DLC VC 2D NES game. Do you have something against older games

I think he was being ironic...

[Refa]

Originally Posted by Betagam7

I think he was being ironic...

Sorry, I'm not smart.

[Diebythesword]

Originally Posted by Refa

Sorry, I'm not smart.

I hope this gets released here tomorrow,best fighting game right now for sure. 10/10

[gaga64]

OK, the original is brilliant, and all the additional bits in the sequels don't actually make the slightest bit of difference to how good the original is, because the core concept and gameplay is virtually unchanged.

BUT... surely if you've got the Wii version, you don't really need the original VC release? All the characters, weapons and game modes are still there. All you miss out on are some levels (Peach's Castle, Hyrule Castle, Saffron City, Mushroom Kingdom, DK's jungle) which can be roughly rebuilt in the level designer mode.

[Betagam7]

Originally Posted by gaga64

OK, the original is brilliant, and all the additional bits in the sequels don't actually make the slightest bit of difference to how good the original is, because the core concept and gameplay is virtually unchanged.

BUT... surely if you've got the Wii version, you don't really need the original VC release? All the characters, weapons and game modes are still there. All you miss out on are some levels (Peach's Castle, Hyrule Castle, Saffron City, Mushroom Kingdom, DK's jungle) which can be roughly rebuilt in the level designer mode.

This is my view too but there are some purists who think Brawl is the worst and prefer the original. Personally I liked the original, had no time for melee and loved Brawl (although its gone off my radar now).
I don't feel I need more than one SSB game on a system so I was happy enough to sell it.

[theUndead_feature]

I love each SSB for what it is. Yes, I've put way way more time into Brawl obviously but only because I had to unlock more ****.

[Mickeymac]

Originally Posted by Tides of Chaos

I just wonder how the controls are for the VC version. No NintendoLife reviews ever seem to mention them, good or bad.

That's bad. Honestly, controls are a make-or-break decision for a lot of people, including me. Did VC-Reviews ever do that? If so, then I'd have to be very disappointed with these new NintendoLife people.

Originally Posted by gaga64

OK, the original is brilliant, and all the additional bits in the sequels don't actually make the slightest bit of difference to how good the original is, because the core concept and gameplay is virtually unchanged.

That's how I've always felt. Throw in better controls with the Classic controller, and I got all my reasons to buy up the VC version in a heartbeat.

[Mickeymac]

*Please delete*

[SKTTR]

urgh, the controls with a classic controller are bad.
i prefer the gamecube controller for the vc super smash bros.
(maybe i have played too much melee and brawl)

[Mickeymac]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

urgh, the controls with a classic controller are bad.
i prefer the gamecube controller for the vc super smash bros.
(maybe i have played too much melee and brawl)

Maybe. Granted, I hated the Gamecube controller even more than the N64 one, so I never used anything other than the Classic controller when I played Brawl, and likely won't use anything else when I get the first.

[gaga64]

Originally Posted by Mickeymac

Maybe. Granted, I hated the Gamecube controller even more than the N64 one, so I never used anything other than the Classic controller when I played Brawl, and likely won't use anything else when I get the first.

I preferred the N64 controller to the GameCube one, but when it comes to playing VC N64 games on the Wii, the Classic just feels wrong and misplaced. It's got to be the 'Cube pad for N64 titles for me.

Conversely, VC SNES titles just don't work with the 'Cube pad, it's Classic every time.

[SKTTR]

Originally Posted by gaga64

I preferred the N64 controller to the GameCube one, but when it comes to playing VC N64 games on the Wii, the Classic just feels wrong and misplaced. It's got to be the 'Cube pad for N64 titles for me.

Conversely, VC SNES titles just don't work with the 'Cube pad, it's Classic every time.

I haven't downloaded many N64 games yet, but the feeling with a Gamecube Controller is much better.
The Classic Controllers analogue stick is really misplaced and uncomfortable.
Also the Classic Controllers Z-Buttons feel awkward and misplaced too.

People who played SSBB with a Classic Controller may get used to the setup of SSB, but I doubt it since you can't use the digipad!!!

The Gamecube Controller is much more N64-like, and it feels somewhat Wiimote+Nunchuk-combo-like (which is my way to play SSBB).

I used to play the series like that:
N64-Controller > SSB
GC-Controller > SSBM
Wiimote+Nunchuck > SSBB

I really suck at playing SSB / SSBB with a Classic Controller,
and can only recommend a Gamecube Controller for this and all other N64-VC games,
because then it (feels somewhat like SSBM and) is nicely playable.

So the bottom line:
Me too thinks the best choice for N64 games on the VC is a Gamecube Controller.
It was used and tested in the Zelda: Collector's Edition (Ocarina and Majora) and it was good,
and now many people who have downloaded VC games also think the Gamecube-Controller is the best choice for N64 games.

[Pit 42]

I agree that most N64 VC games play better with the GC controller. The only N64 game I prefer to play with the classic controller is Sin and Punishment; for some reason it just works better for me.

[theUndead_feature]

Originally Posted by SKTTR

I haven't downloaded many N64 games yet, but the feeling with a Gamecube Controller is much better.
The Classic Controllers analogue stick is really misplaced and uncomfortable.
Also the Classic Controllers Z-Buttons feel awkward and misplaced too.

People who played SSBB with a Classic Controller may get used to the setup of SSB, but I doubt it since you can't use the digipad!!!

The Gamecube Controller is much more N64-like, and it feels somewhat Wiimote+Nunchuk-combo-like (which is my way to play SSBB).

I used to play the series like that:
N64-Controller > SSB
GC-Controller > SSBM
Wiimote+Nunchuck > SSBB

I really suck at playing SSB / SSBB with a Classic Controller,
and can only recommend a Gamecube Controller for this and all other N64-VC games,
because then it (feels somewhat like SSBM and) is nicely playable.

So the bottom line:
Me too thinks the best choice for N64 games on the VC is a Gamecube Controller.
It was used and tested in the Zelda: Collector's Edition (Ocarina and Majora) and it was good,
and now many people who have downloaded VC games also think the Gamecube-Controller is the best choice for N64 games.

I have a special setup for my SSBB name. It changes where the attack, grab, and special buttons are. Makes it a lot easier to do the snake dash. It shouldn't be too hard to adjust to SSB when we get it. Damn regions...

[magiicmann]

i love this game so much and have had it forever and i'm a super smash freak so this game is the best. personally i think melee is the best smash though

[RetroNL]

I think this game is more for the collectors rather than the gamers, ofcourse its the first Smash Bros. game and yes it was nice for its time (not great) because you could now fight and meet each other with almost all your main Nintendo chars in one game.
I mean confronting Mario and Link with each other in a fight, who doesnt want to join ?!

Thus playing the game today its far behind the Smash games that where released on the Cube and Wii after that, not only is the game graphical outdated which isnt really the point here, but its also technically sloppier than the newer versions. Though maybe if it wasnt for this big hit we didnt get the great sequels after that which we can play now.

My opinion: Get it for nostalgic/collectors reasons otherwise leave it and save 10 Euros/Dollars on Brawl (if you dont have it) or ofcourse other VC games.

[Mickeymac]

I'll definitely get it at some point. I already have Brawl and Melee, but IMO, the original is still the best.

[Refa]

This game is for people who want to buy it.

Although it is the worst of the series. I don't see any logical reazon that this would be >than Melee/Brawl...

[theUndead_feature]

I can't agree with that. I had more fun with SSB playing on Safron City as Mario than with any other aspect of the series. You just couldn't beat that.

[Mickeymac]

Yeah, I just don't have as much fun with the other games in the series as I do with the original. While I do like some of the additions in the later games, most of them just come off as filler, and don't actually add to the overall experience. The newer games just aren't as solid a package as the original - it's the SF2 of the series, so to speak, and a true classic, through and through.

Regardless of how you feel about which game is better, if you're a fan of the series, you simply owe it to yourself to pick it up, especially once it's out on the VC. It's where the series began, and it's still a joy to play to this very day. What more could you ask for?

[Refa]

Originally Posted by Mickeymac

Yeah, I just don't have as much fun with the other games in the series as I do with the original. While I do like some of the additions in the later games, most of them just come off as filler, and don't actually add to the overall experience. The newer games just aren't as solid a package as the original - it's the SF2 of the series, so to speak, and a true classic, through and through.

Regardless of how you feel about which game is better, if you're a fan of the series, you simply owe it to yourself to pick it up, especially once it's out on the VC. It's where the series began, and it's still a joy to play to this very day. What more could you ask for?

Mickey- Well, unless you have an N64 ...Like me. I should've already picked this up. What more could I ask for? A DS port with some extras.

[Mickeymac]

Originally Posted by Refa

Mickey- Well, unless you have an N64 ...Like me. I should've already picked this up. What more could I ask for? A DS port with some extras.

I do have an N64, right next to my Wii, with Super Smash Bros. in it. But that's not gonna stop me from getting the VC release.

[Refa]

Originally Posted by Mickeymac

I do have an N64, right next to my Wii, with Super Smash Bros. in it. But that's not gonna stop me from getting the VC release.

Too bad the VC version doesn't exist in the US...yet. Although I'd rather have some UBER rare games come out on VC myself, not a common (but still great) game (not just SSB, but any other games, like Star Fox or Contra).