Overrated and Underrated Movies

[link64]

So we had topics about overrated and underrated games so I thought it would be good to have one about movies.

Overrated

Toy Story: Okay this isn't a bad movie I just think that Pixar have done better movies such as Up and WALL.E.

Avatar: I just don't get why this film is so popular I have seen it twice (2D and IMAX 3D) and didn't find the characters appealing or the story enticing.

Underrated

Hard Boiled: this movie is everything Die Hard should of been and more

[Kiwi the Tortoise]

Overrated:

Matrix:
Dark City was released earlier & had a very similar (& better) plot. It has a great Film-noir style & no messiah-bulls*** in it. Matrix feels like a random nerds dream come true, with K. Reeves being one of the worst actors around.

300:
Like watching a video game trailer to a game that will never be released.
A weak plot, action scenes that get boring after just 10 minutes & shabby acting. Only the overall look was neat, but that alone doesn't make a good movie.

Underrated:

Newer Shyamalan-stuff (The Village; Lady in the Water; The Happening):

The Village was a rather good movie, they main problem was the fact that the trailer presented te movie as something different (a horror flic, to be more specific). Lots of people were dissapointed, since the movie didn't match their expectations. Lady in the Water got lots of bad reviews, but it isn't nearly as bad as the reviewers claim. One of the reasons might be the fact that the movie insults the profession of movie-critics quite a lot (the only truly unsympathic person in the movie). I consider The Happening to be Shyamalans equivalent to Hitchcocks The Birds. Not on par with his other movies, but not that bad.

[Diebythesword]

Overrated: A Clockwork Orange

[Mickeymac]

Overrated:

...I honestly can't think of- Oh! I got it!

2001: A Space Odyssey - Ugh...what wasn't disappointing about this movie? The story was utterly confusing, and don't even get me started on the ending; The soundtrack was like have having wasps flying around in my ears, buzzing and stinging as they go. The pacing was just downright awful! I've never watched a slower movie in my life! The only thing keeping me from shutting it off and walking away was the urge to find out what the point of it all was, but if there was one, it did a terrible job of relaying it to the viewers, because as far as I could tell, there was no point!

This movie is regarded as a classic, but as far as I'm concerned, it's a classic example of the watch-ability of a movie being sacrificed for the sake of "art". The only positive things I have to say about it are that the visual effects do seem like they would be impressive back in the day, and the technology, if nothing else, was believable, even today, provided you adjusted the date by about 50 years or so.

Underrated:

I have to agree with link64, Hard Boiled is one of my favorite shoot-'em-up action movies, yet I honestly can't say I know anyone who have ever watched it. A decent plot and tons of over-the-top action scenes that, while purposely forcing the whole "suspension of disbelief", or whatever, were still incredibly enjoyable to watch.

[Diebythesword]

You guys should play Stranglehold!

[link64]

Overrated

Evil Dead: I have no idea how this movie got a 100% rating on rotten tomatoes while even horror classics like Dawn Of The Dead get ratings like 95%, I actually like Evil Dead 2 a lot more.

Toy story 2: I know I also mentioned Toy Story 1 but this movie is also popular with critics while I did not think it was as good as the first, also that I am your father joke was not funny and was really obvious.

[Mickeymac]

Yeah, Toy Story 2 was one of the many forgettable pieces that was released during Disney's "Sequel Phase". I mean, it wasn't that bad, it just wasn't that good, IMO.

[Spore]

I haven't seen Toy Story 2 since its theatrical release, and I don't remember much from it, but it must have been damn good considering it holds the highest fresh to rotten ratio on Rottentomatoes (142/0).

[Fierce_Deity835]

Overrated - Avatar. It was pretty. That's about it.

Also, NOT the Shawshank Redemption. It was my favorite movie before I even knew that anybody else liked it. #1 on IMDB and well deserving of that. But that's just me.

Underrated - Saw. The original. The acting was bad, but just about everything else was all you could ask for in that kind of movie. Oh wait, there was a bit of ridiculousness. But still, I was impressed by this one.

[theUndead_feature]

Overrated: I will try to keep this brief but quite a lot of films spring to mind.

The Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Casino
A Clockwork Orange
The Lord of the Rings trilogy
Star Wars franchise
Full Metal Jacket
The Departed
28 Days Later . . .
Fight Club
Kill Bill vol. 1
Shrek franchise
Up
The Silence of the Lambs (didn't hate it though)
The Incredibles
The Pirates of the Carribean franchise
Easy Rider
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (again, didn't hate it)


Underrated:
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
The Poseidon Adventure
Smokin' Aces
And Then There Were None (1941)
Heathers
Girlfight
The Last King of Scotland
Clue
Dick Tracy (1990)
Cecil B. Demented
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

Originally Posted by link64

Overrated

Evil Dead: I have no idea how this movie got a 100% rating on rotten tomatoes while even horror classics like Dawn Of The Dead get ratings like 95%, I actually like Evil Dead 2 a lot more.

It's the cult status that it has, quite frankly, earned.

[Kanti 3000]

Originally Posted by theUndead_feature

Underrated:
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
The Poseidon Adventure
Smokin' Aces
And Then There Were None (1941)
Heathers
Girlfight
The Last King of Scotland
Clue
Dick Tracy (1990)
Cecil B. Demented
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm



It's the cult status that it has, quite frankly, earned.

Lets not get started on your overrated list, but I totally agree with your underrated list! Especially the bolded ones!Indiana Jones and Batman Mask of the Phantasm in particular. The Crystal Skull, while not a great film was a lot of fun and not nearly as bad as people make it out to be (granted the fridge scene and the commie hating monkeys were pretty damn stupid). And Mask of the Phantasm is as good of a Batman film as you could ask for. In fact I'd rate it higher than most of the live action Batman films. Why even Roger Ebert loves it!

[link64]

Originally Posted by theUndead_feature

Overrated: I will try to keep this brief but quite a lot of films spring to mind.


Batman Begins
Agreed did not like that movie especially the plot twist at the end
Star Wars franchise:Even the prequels I mean who likes them
Kill Bill vol. 1 :I didn't like vol 1 or 2
Up:Seriously I thought it was one of Pixar's better films
The Incredibles:That was one of Pixar's weaker efforts
The Pirates of the Carribean franchise:Also agreed although the first one wasn't to bad

Underrated:

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

Did anyone not like that movie I mean most people who saw it loved it

[slangman]

Overrated:

The Godfather & The Godfather Part 2: Well scripted and good acting, but boring.

Kill Bill Vol 1: Slow starting, but towards the end of the film it's quite good

X-Men 3:The Last Stand: The plot in this is absolute nonsense. I also hate how this film has an anti-climatic ending. Does not deserve the 6.9 rating on IMDB.

Underrated:

Star Wars Episode 1: Flawed and not as good as the originals, but actually a good movie. Not as bad as people make out.

[Spore]

Originally Posted by slangman

Underrated:
Star Wars Episode 1: Flawed and not as good as the originals, but actually a good movie. Not as bad as people make out.

Educate yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

[theUndead_feature]

Originally Posted by link64

Did anyone not like that movie I mean most people who saw it loved it

It's underrated because people said Batman Begins was a well written and dark take on the the character as if it had never been done in a movie before.

About my problem with Up. The only reason it is praised so highly is because of the opening montage. There are maybe ten minutes of worthy footage in the whole movie. It's nonsense. They're treating it like there have never been any sad moments in any cartoon ever. The entire plot? Utter garbage. Ed Asner's character idolizes Christopher Plummer's character and he has since childhood. Plummer get's disgraced by his colleagues for bringing back a supposidly fake skeleton and he goes back to find a live specimen. He's there for a long-ass time. So why the hell does Ed Asner decide not to tell him about that stupid bird? Out of compassion for this one kid he just met? Please. Just because it's a kids movie doesn't mean it gets to have lazy writing.

[link64]

Originally Posted by theUndead_feature

About my problem with Up. The only reason it is praised so highly is because of the opening montage. There are maybe ten minutes of worthy footage in the whole movie. It's nonsense. They're treating it like there have never been any sad moments in any cartoon ever. The entire plot? Utter garbage. Ed Asner's character idolizes Christopher Plummer's character and he has since childhood. Plummer get's disgraced by his colleagues for bringing back a supposidly fake skeleton and he goes back to find a live specimen. He's there for a long-ass time. So why the hell does Ed Asner decide not to tell him about that stupid bird? Out of compassion for this one kid he just met? Please. Just because it's a kids movie doesn't mean it gets to have lazy writing.

I agree on the amount of time the villain spends looking for the bird (he must be at least 90). As for not telling him about the bird it can be explained by him acting rash and not thinking things though.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Originally Posted by Spore

Educate yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

This is pretty awesome so far.

[theUndead_feature]

Originally Posted by link64

I agree on the amount of time the villain spends looking for the bird (he must be at least 90). As for not telling him about the bird it can be explained by him acting rash and not thinking things though.

The reason he did it was very clear. He had seen that this boy, who's been nothing but a pain in the ass, had grown to like this bird. Ed Asner purposely mislead Plummer on its whereabouts which is about as believable as a house being carried off by balloons.

[hansolo350]

Originally Posted by Spore

Educate yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

I love all of this guys "reviews." I would also recommend the Star Trek reviews if you have seen those movies.

[link64]

Originally Posted by Spore

Educate yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

Just watched the hole thing really good and so true.

[link64]

Overrated
Star Trek:First Contact how the hell did this movie get a 92% on RT.

I can ignore the plot holes but why is Picard out of character in the show he's a clam collective man in the movie's he's an action movie star with anger management problems.

its still probably the best TNG movie but that's not saying much.

[LinkFanatic]

I liked all the Star Wars movies, but I did think the prequels were overrated.

Underrated would have to go to Heavy Metal

[link64]

Underrated

Scandal 1950: I really think this one of Akira Kurosawa's better films sure it got a simple story but so did Rashomon however the story is told very well.

I think people misunderstood who the story was about (its the lawyer's story)

I actually liked it better than Throne Of Blood.

[hayes1516]

Overrated:

AVATAR! Damn this movie irked me. Hey, James Cameron. Recycling the evil corporation from all your other films doesn't count as great plotting. Neither does the hero falling in love with the princess of the natives he is trying to forcibly remove. OMG! You saw Dances With Wolves too...isn't that great! And as for your groundbreaking special effects, well they're just perfections of previously done things. The Navi were just motion captured and digitally added. Ooooo...Gollum anyone? Hell, even Ralph Bakshi's rotoscoping art style was just a primitive form of this. I'm sorry, but adding 3D to your jumbling of other people's ideas does not a great film make.

Inglourious Basterds - I really feel Tarantino is losing it. While Kill Bill Vol. 2 felt like maybe he was getting back to what made him so good, everything else of late feels forced.

Anything made by Eli Roth. The man is a hack. And a really bad writer.

Underrated:

Big Trouble In Little China - John Carpenter was channeling Chinese cinema long before it hit the mainstream and this little fantasy is a hoot. Complete with doofus hero and off the wall plot, this one rocks.

Army Of Darkness - Quite possibly the funniest thing Sam Raimi has ever made. I quote this movie at length itès got so many hilarious one liners.

[Kobayashi]

Originally Posted by link64

Overrated
Star Trek:First Contact how the hell did this movie get a 92% on RT.

I don't agree. First Contact is a very good sci-fi movie.

[Kiwi the Tortoise]

Originally Posted by hayes1516

Overrated:

AVATAR! Damn this movie irked me. Hey, James Cameron. Recycling the evil corporation from all your other films doesn't count as great plotting. Neither does the hero falling in love with the princess of the natives he is trying to forcibly remove. OMG! You saw Dances With Wolves too...isn't that great! And as for your groundbreaking special effects, well they're just perfections of previously done things. The Navi were just motion captured and digitally added. Ooooo...Gollum anyone? Hell, even Ralph Bakshi's rotoscoping art style was just a primitive form of this. I'm sorry, but adding 3D to your jumbling of other people's ideas does not a great film make.

Amen to that!

Originally Posted by hayes1516

Anything made by Eli Roth. The man is a hack. And a really bad writer.

Hallelujah!

[neuzd]

Originally Posted by hayes1516

Underrated:

Big Trouble In Little China

You have the wrong perception of the cult following this movie has.
It's not underrated at all: it's a piece of history, as it deserves to be.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/big_..._little_china/

[link64]

Originally Posted by neuzd

You have the wrong perception of the cult following this movie has.
It's not underrated at all: it's a piece of history, as it deserves to be.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/big_..._little_china/

He's right Big Trouble In Little China is a cult classic and for once it deserves to be.

[hayes1516]

Originally Posted by neuzd

You have the wrong perception of the cult following this movie has.
It's not underrated at all: it's a piece of history, as it deserves to be.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/big_..._little_china/

I remember when it came out and it was very underrated. Nobody liked it then and it tanked in theaters. My dad and I saw it but it seemed until recently that we were the only ones.