What's the best RPG on the 360?

[Mickeymac]

I was planning on getting a 360 around Christmas time, and I was wondering what you all would suggest in terms of RPGs.

[Spore]

Fallout 3.

[Joxe]

You mean Oblivion 2?

There aren't that many RPGs as you can see on this list:
http://games.teamxbox.com/index/xbox-360/by-genre/18/

I would say that FFXIII will probably be (at least hope) the best choice, but the release date is still unknown, otherwise it's Fable 2 which will be available later this fall.

[Mickeymac]

@Joxe

Really? I can name ten off the top of my head! There's Lost Oddessy, Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, Eternal Sonata, Enchanted Arms, Tales of Vesperia, Spectral Force 3, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Final Fantasy 13, Fallout 3, Fable 2, Oblivion, and Penny Arcade Adventures, all of which are either out now, or will be by the end of the year, and Star Ocean 4 has been confirmed for next year. That is a lot for me to choose from, which is why I'm asking for what you suggest, and since you did give me an anwer, thanks! :D Though, I just tried FF12, and I honestly didn't like it, so I'm going to have to rent Final Fantasy XIII first.

Edit: Oh wait, you're the one with the list, sorry. I'm using the Wii browser and forgot to quote, so I forgot. I've studied that list for hours, and I still can't come up with an answer.

[Joxe]

Well, I can't really say that I have 100% knowledge of all those games, my point was that it was rather few of them and none that I've heard "zomg, best gaem evah" from anyone.

And I didn't like FF12 either, at least we're three now (one of my friends don't like it either) ^_^
I certainly hope that the FF genre will find its way back to the PlayStation standard, FFVII and FFIX are at least in the top 20-30 best games ever and when I look back at it, FFX wasn't too bad either.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

I certainly hope that the FF genre will find its way back to the PlayStation standard...

Eww... I had always hoped the PS FFs could find their way back to the SNES standard.

Mickey, how can you list FF13 in a top ten list of RPGs if it's not even out yet? That's kind of silly. I wouldn't be putting it on any list until I've played it (and to be quite frank, every trailer I've seen makes it look like a terrible action-RPG Matrix rip-off for emo kids).

[Shortay]

I absolutely adored The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion; the world is so expansive and deep that you'll be amazed by it. The main story is huge but the sidequests are even better and you'll spend months trying to achieve the head of each guild in the game.

[Mickeymac]

Mickey, how can you list FF13 in a top ten list of RPGs if it's not even out yet? That's kind of silly. I wouldn't be putting it on any list until I've played it (and to be quite frank, every trailer I've seen makes it look like a terrible action-RPG Matrix rip-off for emo kids).

I said I could name 10 off the top of my head( I named 16, actually), and I no nothing of the quality of those game, since I've only read the product details on IGN. Though, I guess not a lot of people know anymore about those games than I do, though I have been hearing good things about Oblivion.

And you're right the trailers for FF13 look really lame, I was laughing at the entire time I watched.

[Joxe]

Maybe I should clarify my Oblivion comment :/

I simply thought that it was the same game as Morrowind with soulless NPCs that all shared the same voice and did nothing on the days. Yes, it had its moments for sure, but I think they should improve more from Morrowind to Oblivion than the graphics. I really love the idea that they want to create though so I really hope for Elder Scrolls V...oh wait, it's renamed to Fallout 3.

[Spore]

Maybe I should clarify my Oblivion comment :/

I simply thought that it was the same game as Morrowind with soulless NPCs that all shared the same voice and did nothing on the days. Yes, it had its moments for sure, but I think they should improve more from Morrowind to Oblivion than the graphics. I really love the idea that they want to create though so I really hope for Elder Scrolls V...oh wait, it's renamed to Fallout 3.

I really don't think just because the game uses the same engine it is fair to call it the same game. You know, considering everything is different in pretty much every way.

[Ragnor]

Infinite Undiscovery comes out next month, and thats the RPG I want most.

Currently, Id recommend Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Oblivion and Mass Effect

[Joxe]

Seems like I'm still the only person on the planet not to like Mass Effect, was just too like KotOR which I didn't like aswell...dunno why...I love Baldur's Gate. I think it has to do with the mediocre dialog and the bouncy difficulty level, you can forgive stuff like that for a 10 year old game, but not in the newer ones.

Well, I guess this is yet again something I'm alone with and you go play Mass Effect if you want to, at least it has great graphics.

[Shortay]

Seems like I'm still the only person on the planet not to like Mass Effect, was just too like KotOR which I didn't like aswell...dunno why...I love Baldur's Gate. I think it has to do with the mediocre dialog and the bouncy difficulty level, you can forgive stuff like that for a 10 year old game, but not in the newer ones.

Well, I guess this is yet again something I'm alone with and you go play Mass Effect if you want to, at least it has great graphics.

I'm currently playing Mass Effect and pretty much hating it.

Nothing enjoyable about the game so far, and I'm having to work to actually like it.

[Joxe]

Two of us then :)

[Iam Canadian]

After having put some time into it, I put forth Tales of Vesperia as the best 360 RPG. :D

[Joxe]

Have heard the same, the downside with it is supposedly that it's not that much different from the most recent "Tales of" games (like Symphonia and upwards). So I guess it doesn't give any big surprises if you've played the others but I also think it would be great for those who haven't! Still can't see why they removed the Japanese speech though...it really gives a jRPG some more feeling to it.

[Jiggy37]

I haven't played any 360 RPGs except Tales of Vesperia, but since Vesperia very quickly my favorite game ever, it would be pretty hard to dethrone. :P Everything ToV does so very, very right:




It has pick-up-and-play value because of its fast and fun battle system, but it can also be played for crazy numbers of hours on end without getting boring. It has its depth, since several of the attacks knock enemies down and prevent you from continuing a combo that would work on a standing enemy--unless, of course, you use one of the moves that forces a knocked-down enemy to stand up. It's always working out a balance...
It has an enormous degree of customization. Different difficulty levels, and some skills that can cut a character's power to 50% or 25% if you turn them on.
And it also has an enormous degree of things to collect. If you're a completionist, be ready for over 100 hours easily! (I'm over 110 hours and still don't have everything.)
The dungeons and even some optional puzzles can require thought.
Fans of complicated, deep RPG systems will have dozens of numbers and statistics to juggle, with learning skills, managing which skills you want enabled (they can't all be equipped), synthesizing items from raw materials, playing battles in certain ways to get higher grade gains and--well, basically everything.
There's a lot to explore without the game holding your hand, and since many of those things to explore are totally optional, they still feel rewarding to discover.
The Grade Shop gives great reason to replay, since you can customize so many things for later playthroughs.
Helping along the replayability, a great majority of the story (skits) is optional and skippable. And even for the cutscenes that aren't t skippable, Vesperia lets you hold X and A instead of making you keep pressing the button for every line of dialogue.
Lots of costumes and accessories so that if you don't like a character's default design, you can change it around until you find something you do.
Most bosses have secret missions that provide great optional challenges. Think Mega Man 9 here.



It's not a perfect game or technically flawless--in fact, there are three things in particular that I'd criticize, which are 1) too many invisible walls in towns blocking off things that look like they should be new areas; 2) the translators can be sloppy in some areas (it's/its confusion, anymore/any more, everyday/every day; your/you're, god/God, ogre/orge...), and 3) a lot of sidequests have deadlines and you'd never know about them without reading a guide. And most of the music is pretty forgettable. I'm not calling it an official criticism because it's not like the music is bad, but it's certainly not good.

But none of that matters in light of how many things Tales of Vesperia gets right, and how right it gets them. Fantastic RPG, fantastic game.

[Bonesaw]

Fallout 3 is not only the best RPG of this generation so far, it may be the best video game period.

[Spore]

Fallout 3 is not only the best RPG of this generation so far, it may be the best video game period.

It was swell, but I wouldn't go that far.

[Joxe]

Fallout 3 is hardly a RPG, it's a shooter with pause function ;)