Super Paper Mario

[INpixl]

Since we Europeans haven't seen the release of this title yet (and probably won't until Q3) can those who have played it share some input? Is the title as great as the reviews I've read (Averaging a score of 9/10)?

[Dazza]

Our friends at NintendoLife sum it up pretty well:

Super Paper Mario review (http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/2007/04/15/super_paper_mario_by_phat_ant)

I have it for my US Wii. It is truly excellent. My favourite Wii game so far. 9/10 for sure! 8)

[iNma]

October...

A nearly 6-month lead time for Europe is baffling, and nigh-unforgivable, especially given the dearth of titles here at the moment.

[INpixl]

That sounds great Dazza. I actually haven't played the earlier entries in the Paper Mario series, but I'm really looking forward to this one now.

iNma: Is the release date set for October? God damn what a hold up. I'm guessing it's a translation related issue, given the games hefty amount of dialogue. By the way... Where did you hear about October being the ship date? I haven't seen any official word on it, just placeholder dates.

[Hendo]

The last I heard was the end of November, which is fairly believable.
And if it does come out over here at the end of the year, can you still see the other big hitters coming out? I can't.
But anyway, I've only played the Cube's Paper Mario and it's awesome.
It it's as funny as that one I'll be happy.

[Dazza]

It it's as funny as that one I'll be happy.

The script is very funny. Very surreal in places! :lol:

[iNma]

I can't remember where I saw the October release date, so don't take it as gospel. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if October was optimistic.

And I second the opinion about other big games. However, one hopes that Nintendo are smart enough not to delay them significantly. Firstly because I *need* Metroid Prime 3, and secondly because they're paramount to the credibility of the Wii as a gaming machine

[INpixl]

Nintendo has a lot to prove, given earlier statements. They have made "promises" that there would be a steady flow of AAA-titles and that we would see Metroid 3 and Mario Galaxy early on. Neither of those "promises" reflects our present situation (according to me), but given the gaming goodness that awaits us I'm playing the waiting game for now.

Back to Super Paper Mario. I'm a little unsure if shaking the Wiimote for extra points is such a great feature. It seems a little tacked on, just for the sake of it. Does it add or take away from the gameplay?

[Mendez]

I can't believe I've never played a game from the Paper Mario series :shock:
I'm getting it on launch, and I'm hoping for the original on VC.

[Jonno]

It is the best wii game I have! *Looks at Twilight Princess...*

What!?

[Mendez]

You actually have it in America?! if you do, then I'm mad! :evil:
I hate all the delays and stuff we get, why can't we just all have the exact same games without having to go through all this PAL and NSTC crap?

[Jonno]

We do, Mendez. :twisted:

[Mendez]

We do, Mendez. :twisted:We aren't getting it for months :cry:
You Americans are so cruel :(

[Drake]

But we've got a better VC lineup, and we're getting Mario Strikers Charged Football next month, which America won't have for months (I believe it's got a Q3 release there). Europe being the first with a true online game ftw.

[Jonno]

We do, Mendez. :twisted:We aren't getting it for months :cry:
You Americans are so cruel :(

Well uh... Sorry. XD :marth-slash:

[Mendez]

We do, Mendez. :twisted:We aren't getting it for months :cry:
You Americans are so cruel :(

Well uh... Sorry. XD :marth-slash:You had better be. Don't you dare do it again.

[Jonno]

Umm... we're still joking around aren't we? Thats what I meant in the beginning! :?

[Mendez]

Umm... we're still joking around aren't we? Thats what I meant in the beginning! :?No we aren't :P
And we also aren't discussing Super Paper Mario are we?

On topic: As I said below or above or whatever, I'm annoyed by the delays! But I still can't wait for our distant release!

[Jonno]

I know, I know. It really isn't that fair for Europeans to wait for games in the same language in which they speak! What do they have to do, replace every 'waffle' with 'crumpet'? Quite stupid, whatever they do to delay the games in Europe so long.

[DivineOmega]

I know, I know. It really isn't that fair for Europeans to wait for games in the same language in which they speak! What do they have to do, replace every 'waffle' with 'crumpet'? Quite stupid, whatever they do to delay the games in Europe so long.

On a side-note... I wonder how many games there are that actual contain crumpets/waffles? :spike:

[Mendez]

I know, I know. It really isn't that fair for Europeans to wait for games in the same language in which they speak! What do they have to do, replace every 'waffle' with 'crumpet'? Quite stupid, whatever they do to delay the games in Europe so long.

On a side-note... I wonder how many games there are that actual contain crumpets/waffles? :spike:*Trys to think of one and fails miserably*

[Kevin]

You're gonna love it when you get it, Mendez. Its a really sweet game.

[kelvingreen]

On a side-note... I wonder how many games there are that actual contain crumpets/waffles? :spike:
Parodius probably. :wink:

[Joxe]

And to think of all the lift/elevator they have to translate.

Nah, it's the german/french/spanish that takes time. And since there's a lot of dialogue it will take some time.

But the game itself...I've never played it but I've heard that it's a little like SMRPG and would maybe buy it. It kind of depends no it's reviews and my economical situation.

[neuzd]

Nah, it's the german/french/spanish that takes time.

I know we're the trashbin of Europe, but at least Italian is a very nice language.....

Anyway, titles like this always receive an incredibly high degree of attention for translations. I really appreciate that, Paper Mario and Mario&Luigi sagas are probably the funniest games I ever played.

When I'm suggesting friends to buy one of these titles, my argumentations always focus on the infinite laughs they provide.

[Ender]

For all of you in Europe, the game is well worth the wait. Super Paper Mario has the same great game play as the traditional side scrolling Mario games, plus the RPG elements and great humor of the previous Paper Mario games. It's true that it's not fair that you have to wait for the game, but I guarantee that it will be worth it.

[Myung]

I just don't get why we (europe) need translations, don't most people read english anyway? Maybe it's just me though, I read english before most kids could read dutch :roll: I'm hoping there will be a freeloader or something else out soon, so I can start importing. I really want to play this game and I can't believe it's not even on the 2007 release list in europe yet.

[link64]

A lot of french People refuse to learn english.

[Sid]

I just don't get why we (europe) need translations, don't most people read english anyway? Maybe it's just me though, I read english before most kids could read dutch :roll: I'm hoping there will be a freeloader or something else out soon, so I can start importing. I really want to play this game and I can't believe it's not even on the 2007 release list in europe yet.

The reason for the delay is because the PAL version has to allow for all major European languages. Unfortunately us Brits come under the PAL region. The American games fall under the NTSC region and as such are dealt with by NOA not NOE (Nintendo of America, Nintendo of Europe). If there was a "Nintendo of Great Britain" it would solve all our problems. Its been like this since the dawn of time and it probably isn't going to change anytime soon.

[Drake]

The problem is that Paper Mario 2 only took about a month to translate. Super Paper Mario hasn't even been MENTIONED by NoE yet.

[Kevin]

I just don't get why we (europe) need translations, don't most people read english anyway? Maybe it's just me though, I read english before most kids could read dutch :roll: I'm hoping there will be a freeloader or something else out soon, so I can start importing. I really want to play this game and I can't believe it's not even on the 2007 release list in europe yet.

The reason for the delay is because the PAL version has to allow for all major European languages. Unfortunately us Brits come under the PAL region. The American games fall under the NTSC region and as such are dealt with by NOA not NOE (Nintendo of America, Nintendo of Europe). If there was a "Nintendo of Great Britain" it would solve all our problems. Its been like this since the dawn of time and it probably isn't going to change anytime soon.

:shock: Man, that's rough. I'm glad I don't have to go through all that. Its so not fair to you guys. I feel for all of you. :wink: But just thankful for the great VC lineup you guys have to keep you busy in the meantime.

[The shoemaker]

Well since no ones really talking about the game ONLY that it takes to long for for the translation ( I feel sorry for you too ) I guess I'll talk about it. Well it's not much of a hard game, but I still love it. The fighting pretty easy, I guess it's like that because it's not supposed to really be a hard game, but the bosses should have been harder. There are some hard fighting parts. ( example: pit of 100 trials ) Other than fighting, the game is great! I love the story and all of the different moves you get, I love doing stylish moves. And to actually BEAT the game there's a lot of extra things to get, like the 258 cards and all of the recipes. All over all this is a great game and I would say this is one of the best games out there. :D

[The shoemaker]

I just beat it for the second time I almost have all of the extra stuff

[Drake]

European date: September 14th.

Commence the *****ing.

[Mendez]

European date: September 14th.

Commence the *****ing.Source? I don't believe it until I see it with my own eyes :P
I'm not surprised at all if that is the date though, Nintendo are really harsh on us Brits :(

[Drake]

Was sent to my email earlier (I signed up to NoE's press service with a fake identity :P), it's now on the UK Nintendo site as well.

[Tull]

European date: September 14th.

Commence the *****ing.Source? I don't believe it until I see it with my own eyes :P
I'm not surprised at all if that is the date though, Nintendo are really harsh on us Brits :(

Same date on my country's nintendo site too
http://nintendo.no/templates/05.asp?sida=782

Nah, it's the german/french/spanish that takes time.

Man im so sick of those country's refusing to learn English...

I just beat it for the second time I almost have all of the extra stuff

Bah gimme some hard games *looks at VC* ahh there it is :P

Commence the *****ing.

Im patient.. Now where's my *****es :P

[iNma]

Nah, it's the german/french/spanish that takes time.

Man im so sick of those country's refusing to learn English...

Come on dude, I wasn't expecting such a frankly xenophobic and straight ignorant comment from you. Surely you cannot demand that the entire world learn a language that, even in its most widespread form, is no more than a lingua franca for universal communication between people of different mother tongues. There's no substitute for the nuances that can be achieved through individual localisation. According to wikipedia, the total number of English speakers in the world is less than a billion, thereby, deducing from your flawed logic, games should be unattainable to more than 5/6 of the world because of their refusal to learn it? No, just no.

[Mendez]

Was sent to my email earlier (I signed up to NoE's press service with a fake identity :P), it's now on the UK Nintendo site as well.Ah. Not fair!! :evil:

I also see they've delayed Trauma Center too 10th August..
Congratulations, you American's now have it 3/4 of a year earlier!!

Ah well, at least we have our online Mario Strikers to make up for all the years of time difference we've had with games :P

I just wish the Wii was region free >_<

[Tull]

Nah, it's the german/french/spanish that takes time.

Man im so sick of those country's refusing to learn English...

Come on dude, I wasn't expecting such a frankly xenophobic and straight ignorant comment from you. Surely you cannot demand that the entire world learn a language that, even in its most widespread form, is no more than a lingua franca for universal communication between people of different mother tongues. There's no substitute for the nuances that can be achieved through individual localisation. According to wikipedia, the total number of English speakers in the world is less than a billion, thereby, deducing from your flawed logic, games should be unattainable to more than 5/6 of the world because of their refusal to learn it? No, just no.

I see your point, but we all live in the age of the the Internet and technology that all speak English... Why cant they accept that, will they ever?. Other languages is secondary in that context. They are making its ppl lag behind cos they want to keep the national pride and refuse to accept the standard. Do they think its ppl is to stupid to cope with another lang? The rest if EU is teaching it AFAIK expect those nationalists(iknow im itching nerves now :D). Like two generations up from me(in my contry) dont even know english. I dont see them screeming nooo another lang is bad. Only those contries.

[iNma]

My point is as follows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Germany

From a cursory glance at these articles, you will see that English is essentially compulsory in all of them as a second language.

There is no barrier to learning the language, nor is there a problem of national pride curtailing the teaching of it. The issue, as I said in my previous post, is that one cannot expect proficiency in a second language to be comparable to the mother tongue of any student, much like the vast majority of students in Britain would not able to speak French (the compulsory second language) with any degree of fluidity.

Remember, also, that I am saying all this as a person who studied English as a second language, being Swedish myself.

[Jaxathon]

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/jaxathon/YouSuck.jpg
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

That part of the game has so much potential for epic awesomeness XD

[Dazza]

much like the vast majority of students in Britain would not able to speak French (the compulsory second language) with any degree of fluidity.

That's not quite true schoolkids in Britain usually choose between learning German, French or Spanish. It doesn't have to be French although it usually is.

I am not sure what the deal is now but when I was at school I don't think we even studied another language until we were 14! At that age I feel it is almost too late to get a real grasp of a language unless the student really makes an effort. I think kids may start at age 11 now.

We are lucky in England really. Thanks to America we are ensured the world will always make English (albeit American-English!) the first priority. I go aboard a lot to France, Spain, Germany, etc now and I am always embarrassed at my lack of multi-lingual skills. I at least always try to mumble through the phrase book (more than most Brits!) but 9/10 we end up speaking in English because the other person understands it so well.

I went to stay with my uncle earlier this year in the house that he owns in France. It's really far away from big cities and it was a real shock to find for the first time that outside the big cities people speak very little English. We got by of course with our feeble attempts but it does show you there is a world out there who don't speak English. Fair play to them, why should they have to? :lol:

[Jaxathon]

much like the vast majority of students in Britain would not able to speak French (the compulsory second language) with any degree of fluidity.

That's not quite true schoolkids in Britain usually choose between learning German, French or Spanish. It doesn't have to be French although it usually is.

I am not sure what the deal is now but when I was at school I don't think we even studied another language until we were 14! At that age I feel it is almost too late to get a real grasp of a language unless the student really makes an effort. I think kids may start at age 11 now.

We are lucky in England really. Thanks to America we are ensured the world will always make English (albeit American-English!) the first priority. I go aboard a lot to France, Spain, Germany, etc now and I am always embarrassed at my lack of multi-lingual skills. I at least always try to mumble through the phrase book (more than most Brits!) but 9/10 we end up speaking in English because the other person understands it so well.

I went to stay with my uncle earlier this year in the house that he owns in France. It's really far away from big cities and it was a real shock to find for the first time that outside the big cities people speak very little English. We got by of course with our feeble attempts but it does show you there is a world out there who don't speak English. Fair play to them, why should they have to? :lol:I always wanted to learn french and german =p

[Mendez]

schoolkids in Britain usually choose between learning German, French or Spanish. It doesn't have to be French although it usually is.We've never been given the chance to learn German, I didn't even know they taught German a lot here until a few months ago!
For GCSE's it was French or Spanish (had to do one so I picked Spanish) and it was compulsory we did the terrible Welsh.

[Tull]

@iNma
My point is that they never get it "in" growing up via TV(dubbed), games(localized) other technology(localized). And they continue localizing over and over to they get stuck only knowing native. And have you tried talking English in any of those contries?(no offence to you ppl living there:) With great success? (ok Germany aint as bad as the other two i think...). Dazza touched that point too to some degree

[facownage]

i thought this was a thread on super paper mario...not political correctiveness

1. Tull, you're a moron...never will the whole world speak english, so get over that part

2. InMa, I can't believe you actually went thru the trouble to prove a point to that guy by going to wiki...just know it was ignorant and leave it alone.

[Tull]

1. Tull, you're a moron...never will the whole world speak english, so get over that part


Its not about the whole world speaking Eng. Its about them Understanding it(cos its defacto standard, no?)... And i dont see you have an opinion expect flames to that case

[facownage]

for what reason would someone from china want or need to know how to understand english?

Quiz time:

Do you know what the most common language in the world is? (It's ok, use wikipedia)

maybe everyone should understand that language...according to your little plight, wouldn't you agree?

[Tull]

for what reason would someone from china want or need to know how to understand english?

Quiz time:

Do you know what the most common language in the world is? (It's ok, use wikipedia)

maybe everyone should understand that language...according to your little plight, wouldn't you agree?

And all the media/technology you consume is in Chinese too? Dont see your point really. As most is in English then translated to German/French/Spanish after, what im talking about(mebbe point at Japanese first cos they make the most tech stuff for the western countries to eat;)...

[facownage]

for what reason would someone from china want or need to know how to understand english?

Quiz time:

Do you know what the most common language in the world is? (It's ok, use wikipedia)

maybe everyone should understand that language...according to your little plight, wouldn't you agree?

And all the media/technology you consume is in Chinese too? Dont see your point really. As most is in English then translated to German/French/Spanish after, what im talking about(mebbe point at Japanese first cos they make the most tech stuff for the western countries to eat;)...


Ohhhh okay...so let's look at this

Nintendo -> Japan

according to these claims you make...everything Nintendo should be left alone in Japanese. We should all understand their language because they made Nintendo.

My point is that we all have our own language, and there is no problem with people from other countries not knowing English. this is why they made translators.

i'm done on this subject...this is a VC thread, not a political correctiveness forum. :-/

truce tull?

[Tull]

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/jaxathon/YouSuck.jpg
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

That part of the game has so much potential for epic awesomeness XD

Fun :D

[Phobetor]

European Box Art revealed

Japan
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51P14c0GZKL._AA280_.jpg

Europe
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_boxshot_uk_large_1_2_3.jpg

North America
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Evlt3wq8L._AA280_.jpg

[INpixl]

Time to revive this bad boy!

We Europeans our finally having a go at Super Paper Mario this friday. Anyone else who is psyched about the release (finally)?

[Jakurdo]

I just got it (live in EU) It's so much fun and it looks sexy too ;)

[Shortay]

I just got it (live in EU) It's so much fun and it looks sexy too ;)

How did u get it, I thought it wasn't out 'til tomorrow? Delivery or what? :???:
I can't wait for it, and have wanted it ever since April when the USA got it :(

[SKTTR]

I got it a few days earlier and I'm playing it all the time.
I'm now 20 hours into it, and in chapter 7.

This game got style. Surprises everywhere. Addictive!
The (German) text translation is perfect. it's hilarious, purely awesome dialogue.
Gameplay is a fresh air of wind. Original in every aspect.
Feels a bit shorter than the other Paper Mario games although. But more innovative and often very weird and cool in its presentation of the world.
and there are plenty of sidequests once more.

I would call it Super Pixel Mario, because pixels are so much involved in the graphical style and story. just as much as the paper style ;)

Super Paper Mario is something completely different than any other game.
And it's a blast. I hope it lasts for a week.
5/5 Stars

[Shortay]

I got it a few days earlier and I'm playing it all the time.
I'm now 20 hours into it, and in chapter 7.

This game got style. Surprises everywhere. Addictive!
The (German) text translation is perfect. it's hilarious, purely awesome dialogue.
Gameplay is a fresh air of wind. Original in every aspect.
Feels a bit shorter than the other Paper Mario games although. But more innovative and often very weird and cool in its presentation of the world.
and there are plenty of sidequests once more.

I would call it Super Pixel Mario, because pixels are so much involved in the graphical style and story. just as much as the paper style ;)

Super Paper Mario is something completely different than any other game.
And it's a blast. I hope it lasts for a week.
5/5 Stars

Again, how exactly have you guys got this game before launch? :confused:

[Jakurdo]

Well for me, its because it was delivered today to the store. Im not sure whether theres an embargo on it, but the shop owner sold it to me. Hes a friend of mine, he actually called me :P Bought my Wii there 2 days before the official launch too.

[Shortay]

Well for me, its because it was delivered today to the store. Im not sure whether theres an embargo on it, but the shop owner sold it to me. Hes a friend of mine, he actually called me :P Bought my Wii there 2 days before the official launch too.

Wow :shock: I didn't know they could do that legally

[Mendez]

Wow :shock: I didn't know they could do that legally
They can't ;)

The game actually sounds pretty good, I've been expecting very little from it after finding out it's different to the other 2, and seeing Youtube video's.

Still, I must resist the purchase until the other 2 are completed!

[Shortay]

They can't ;)

The game actually sounds pretty good, I've been expecting very little from it after finding out it's different to the other 2, and seeing Youtube video's.

Still, I must resist the purchase until the other 2 are completed!

Mendez, I just got it today and it's great! I've only played it for about 45 mins total but the graphics are so nice and the flip from 2D to 3D just makes me smile every time :) Get it if you can't resist, you won't regret it

[alexanderpas]

bummer... i can't get past chapter 2-2, there's a bug preventing me from going further.

[Shortay]

bummer... i can't get past chapter 2-2, there's a bug preventing me from going further.

Really?! In Super Paper Mario? Wat is the bug exactly? :(

[Mendez]

bummer... i can't get past chapter 2-2, there's a bug preventing me from going further.
You've got me a little worried there...
Fancy telling us exactly what the bug is then?

[Jakurdo]

I can't remember any bugs in 2-2... Maybe you just think there's a bug, but in reality, you're just stuck. What's the problem?

[INpixl]

The bug in chapter 2:2 refers to the section where you encounter Mimi for the first time, and the search of the four rooms. The bug seems to occur when the Wii is set to a cerntain language. Anyway... the bug causes the Wii to freeze, which I am glad to say didn't happen to me.

Besides this developer-bug, this is a solid piece of entertainment. I'm at chapter 3:1, and so far the game is great.

[Jakurdo]

Weird... anyway, mine's in english and I had no problems whatsoever.

Btw, have fun in chapter 3, I just finished it and the last part was just hilarious :D

[Shortay]

I'm only on chapter 1-4, taking my time as much as I can, and so far it's just great :)

[Ouenben]

Completed this back in April on my USA imported machine, it's a very good game so anyone who's not sure whether to get it or not, GET IT! theres not that much on wii at the moment so it's nice that this is out

[The shoemaker]

Chapter 3 is one of my favorites! Just so funny. Also if you check around in chapter 3-4 you'll find things from paper mario and the thousand year door.

[Phantom]

Chapter 3 is one of my favorites! Just so funny. Also if you check around in chapter 3-4 you'll find things from paper mario and the thousand year door.

I liked that one too! But the boss reminds me too much of myself....

I'm starting to get kinda worried about the length of this game...only played for a couple of hours and 4 doors are opened already! I probably should start reminding myself its a platformer not an rpg like the others...then it wont seem as bad...

[The shoemaker]

Yeah a bit on the easy side but still really fun.

[~NeonFire372~]

I find this game kinda frustrating for some reason... good nonetheless.

[SKTTR]

Just beaten it in 26 hours 32 minutes.
It's a great game, but easier than the other Paper Mario's.

Now there's much left to find out..

I haven't come across the Casino yet. Where's that thing?
I'm leveling up Mario (don't really need to) while searching for all treasures on the maps I bought.
And I'm searching for different food to cook all the recipes.
And I'm collecting money and all enemy cards.
And I'm doing all the sidequests.

I suppose that's approx. 15 hours plus from now on.

So it's a very good 40 hour platform/adventure.

I tell you when I got everything 100%.
Because this game is great, even after you beat it.
I can't stop. There's so much to do.

[Pegasus]

I haven't come across the Casino yet. Where's that thing?

I know where it is, but I'm not telling. =P Frankly, it's not that difficult to find.

[SKTTR]

Thankyou. :D I like to find it myself.

[The shoemaker]

I've gotten everything but the enemy cards. I'm trying to find them all but 257 cards is a lot. Oh and dont forget the pit of hundred trails those are hard (but i beat it.) But I think the bosses should be harder, because i leveled up a lot doing side quests.
HP 105
POWER 40? cant remember.

[Pocketim]

Do you need Luigi to get to the pit of 100 trials? I'm on 4-2 at the moment

[Pocketim]

Chapter 3 is one of my favorites! Just so funny. Also if you check around in chapter 3-4 you'll find things from paper mario and the thousand year door.

there is also a poster of Bow and Bootler somewhere too!

[The shoemaker]

You don't need Luigi to get to the first one but you do for the second

[coire]

Just completed it, It's really good, but I think that it doesn't really 'draw' the player towards th sidequests as much as it could. I completed it without the Piccolo Pixl, on the plus side though, there is quite a bit of replay value. Good game, But I might trade it in to get Galaxy.