Super Mario RPG - The Virtual Console Forums

Wiinis

22nd May 2007, 07:41 AM

My belief is that it won't be released. It was eventually to be planned, and was on the ESRB site, but was removed. I think Square's planning to release NO games on the VC but instead earn money the cheap way by porting the games to Nintendo systems. But if the games get GOOD 3D updates and a few extras, then that's not too bad - I'd rather have the originals cheaper but 35 bucks is more than worth it for SMRPG or Chrono Trigger.

Darn Square Enix, being smart and making more money off of the games on the DS.

Mendez

22nd May 2007, 07:42 AM

I'm actually not interested about it at all for some reason, I've heard from a few people that it's very average, and it doesn't look amazing, I'll probably give it a miss unless it gets a good review and stuff, and that's if it actually does come out in Europe.

Kevin

22nd May 2007, 12:10 PM

This will be one of the very few RPGs I'll be getting on the VC. Hopefully they will release it in the future. I'm not in a rush though. I just got Streets of Rage 2 and DKC2 so they can take their time for now.

kelvingreen

22nd May 2007, 06:31 PM

Yeah, it's not brilliant. I think it got hyped up a bit too much due to its unavailability in certain regions.

Taint Smack

22nd May 2007, 08:21 PM

I've played a bit of it once, it was good. Paper Mario is better, though.

iNma

23rd May 2007, 02:04 AM

Yeah, it's not brilliant. I think it got hyped up a bit too much due to its unavailability in certain regions.

What he said. Pre-rendered isometric graphics + Mario + Square RPG aimed at the kiddies = way too much hype for a mediocre game that most people here probably haven't played.

Get SNES9X, get it out of your systems.

kelvingreen

23rd May 2007, 01:15 PM

I mean, it's not bad, but there are much better "lost" Square games out there that I'd much rather see before Mario RPG. It's an above average "beginner" rpg, which just so happens to (a) be quite rare and (b) have the Mario name on it.

Dungeon Man

17th June 2007, 07:08 AM

If you like the Mario "universe", then you'll enjoy the game. I don't think it's mediocre at all, but is quite good in its own right. Obviously it's not going to stand tall beside the likes of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI, but it's definitely not a waste of points either.

Basically, you'll be disappointed if you're looking for a "true" RPG experience, but if you dig Mario and the light-heartedness of the franchise, you'll be happy with it.

Jaxathon

17th June 2007, 10:11 PM

Ive never played mario RPG but i want to. I Hope that all the mario games before the GameCube and DS come onto the VC. I love mario games =p

Im also a fan of old school RPG games.

And Metal Gear.

PhoenixUltima

18th June 2007, 02:03 PM

SMRPG was pretty decent, I wouldn't place it as a true classic, but it's definitely a good game.

Although I might be a little biased toward it because I managed to nail 100 super jumps. FEAR ME

Taint Smack

18th June 2007, 03:19 PM

Before I knew this game even existed, I saw a used copy of it back in like, 2001. It was at Gamestop, I saw the sweet looking cartridge and the 3D renders, it looked so awesome. I was THIS CLOSE to buying it.

didn't buy, LOL

Spore

18th June 2007, 10:07 PM

Still being rather new to the RPG genre I think this would be a good buy for me. Most things I've heard about the game was that it was very good as a beginner's RPG experience.

Joxe

18th June 2007, 11:08 PM

A lot of the japanese RPG's are really easy since you play a story and not a game, although some games is more gameplay based. If you're new to the RPG genre then the Final Fantasy games for PSOne would be just a good start as SMRPG, just remember to read everything they say because that's where the feeling in the game is.

As for SMRPG I haven't played it that much since I just downloaded it on an emulator to try it out, but like every other game I got bored by playing them on the computer and deleted it. But if it would be released for VC I would probably buy it.

carcar756

29th July 2007, 04:17 AM

i am sooooo looking forward to the release of this game! we bought it in 2001 and i remember really liking it. but since i was only in like 4th grade at the time i could only get about 1/2 way thru. i went to play it back when spm was released and it seemed to be my only missing snes game. im pretty sure my sister's boyfriend stole and sold it but i can't confront him about it b/c he's on heroine and im not allowed to see him.

I WANT SMRPG!!!

Craig

29th July 2007, 04:48 AM

For some reason I dont see Square releasing any of its properties onto VC. I want Chrono Trigger on my Wii, even though I own the PS port in Chronicles, it would be sweet to play it without the loading (even though I really have no problems with the PS version).
Square-Enix really needs to get its sh t together, imagine how much money Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana would make on the VC? And translating SFC games is very cheap process, after the popularity of DQ VIII people would buy the SNES Dragon Quest's enough to make up for the translation costs 1000 fold.

yoshi175

29th July 2007, 01:44 PM

Veszerin

30th July 2007, 06:54 PM

Pit 42

31st July 2007, 09:05 PM

Square is tight with Nintendo again, so I think they will release their games on VC with no trouble.

Beholder

2nd August 2007, 03:51 AM

"
I mean, it's not bad, but there are much better "lost" Square games out there that I'd much rather see before Mario RPG. It's an above average "beginner" rpg, which just so happens to (a) be quite rare and (b) have the Mario name on it.

What he said. Pre-rendered isometric graphics + Mario + Square RPG aimed at the kiddies = way too much hype for a mediocre game that most people here probably haven't played.

Yeah, it's not brilliant. I think it got hyped up a bit too much due to its unavailability in certain regions.
"

Impressive...

Well, SMRPG was not as long as Seiken Densetsu 3. It didn't have tons of endings, like Chrono Trigger. It didn't have hundreds of magic spells or weapons either like "most" of the Final fantasy games...

But do you know why is it a Classic?

because SMRPG had what NONE OF THE GAMES MENTIONED ABOVE had: A simple, fun and fresh story; a brilliant, simple and original battle system (even nowadays I press A button every time my character makes contact with the enemy), tons of humor, original and old characters from the Mario Universe, lots of FUN minigames (some games lack the FUN part), a detailed overworld map, lots of NPCs and, the most important part, it was FUN to play.

It's a shame that some people consider this game a "mediocre game", because in no way this is mediocre. This game demonstrated that you don't need an epic story or a brand name to tell a story, and you don't need the most powerfull system to make a fun game to play.

kelvingreen

5th August 2007, 04:27 PM

the most important part, it was FUN to play.
I'll give you that. SMRPG is good fun, and doesn't take itself too seriously, unlike a lot of console rpgs. But on the other hand, fun is not enough on its own; that's why I think it's a good game, and a great beginner's rpg, but one of the best console rpgs ever? No, not really.

Beholder

6th August 2007, 02:57 AM

But on the other hand, fun is not enough on its own; that's why I think it's a good game, and a great beginner's rpg, but one of the best console rpgs ever? No, not really.

May I ask you why?

Dan

6th August 2007, 06:19 AM

Super Mario RPG is easily my most favourite game of all time, and I am praying that it gets released in Australia. So many memorable moments and characters in that game, including my all time favourite, Dodo :cool:

kelvingreen

6th August 2007, 06:47 PM

May I ask you why?
It doesn't have a particularly complex or interesting story, there's not much in the way of in-depth character interaction, and it's tactically limited. I don't deny it's a good game (and an improvement over more complex rpgs in many ways), but in comparison with rpgs like Phantasy Star IV, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, it pales. Also I've never been a fan of the Mario mythos, so I don't see the presence of those characters as a major draw like many people do. So yes, it's a lot of fun, but it needs to be more than just fun to be considered one of the greatest rpgs ever, imho.

Beholder

7th August 2007, 12:49 AM

It doesn't have a particularly complex or interesting story, there's not much in the way of in-depth character interaction, and it's tactically limited.

Already stated. It clearly does not provide the deepest story of the system, but I have to disagree in terms of "in-depth character interaction";the game has some of the funniest characters and moments of the 16 bits era (Axem rangers, the wedding, Geno, the moles, and many) that this game does not need a deep story to make it fun. Why do we need the best-plot-evar to tell a story? why do we need a main character to die to make an epic game? This game demonstrated, at its time, that you only need creativity and some charming characters, along with an improved battle system, to provide one of the best RPGs in the system.

And about the games that you mentioned: Having played all of them (at their respective time), I'm sure that, although those are good games, I had not as much fun as I had playing SMRPG. Even 7th Saga had charmer characters than PS4, and the combat system in Earthbound was really limited. I really doubt that, technically, SMRPG "pales" in comparison to those games, unless we talk of personal preference, but that's another topic.

kelvingreen

7th August 2007, 04:47 PM

Fair enough. You can keep saying SMRPG is fun, and I can keep saying it's too simplistic to be a truly great rpg. We won't agree, so let's leave it at that.

So_Cal_Ferni

10th August 2007, 09:50 PM

Fair enough. You can keep saying SMRPG is fun, and I can keep saying it's too simplistic to be a truly great rpg. We won't agree, so let's leave it at that.

Your right that SMRPG is very simple but your missing the fact. this was one of the first Mario game ever gone from adventure to role playing. the story has very little complexity because its a mario game but thats the whole reason its a great rpg. not to mention that the graphics are pretty good for a SNES. given a fair trial to SMRPG its a Great game just as are Chrono Trigger and Earthbound.

Geno

11th August 2007, 05:07 AM

opinions are opinions, and I have the opinion that it is the fourth best SNES game of all time. (Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, and Kirby Super Star beat it)

yoshi175

11th August 2007, 08:03 PM

I don't know if I've said this yet but I really hope this comes to Europe with a lot of the other RPGS we missed

So_Cal_Ferni

11th August 2007, 10:12 PM

all and all i cant wait to see it on the VC. so i can see mallow and geno again. its too bad theyre not very famous so thats theyre only appearance which was too bad because geno was the a great character.

So_Cal_Ferni

11th August 2007, 10:14 PM

i wander if Geno will ever make an appearance in any other games. especially in smash bros. brawl. that would great. so that why you could use the Geno Beam.:D KILL. lol

hippiecrite

12th August 2007, 01:37 AM

I owned this game and only got through it once. I'd love to play it again and hope it gets released on the VC. Even though Square support isn't particularly strong I think Nintendo can release this much in the same way they can release the Donkey Kong Country games even though Rare is owned by Microsoft now. Mario & Co. are Nintendo's property, not Square's so even though it was a joint venture, I'd think Nintendo can release a game they published and that used their characters.

Beholder

12th August 2007, 02:23 AM

I hope that, at least, we get Geno and the other SMRPG characters in Brawl in form of trophies. It would be great to have Geno as a playable character, but I don't think that it's possible.

And Geno Whirl for 9999 damage!

kelvingreen

12th August 2007, 07:59 PM

Your right that SMRPG is very simple but your missing the fact.
"Fact"? I doubt it. ;) It's a good game, but you'll never convince me that it's great.

Veszerin

13th August 2007, 05:54 PM

"Fact"? I doubt it. ;) It's a good game, but you'll never convince me that it's great.

Perhaps not great, but definitely better than FF7.

kelvingreen

13th August 2007, 06:44 PM

Ho ho, and that's a can of worms flung open! :lol:
I won't get into that argument!

So_Cal_Ferni

13th August 2007, 07:18 PM

Perhaps not great, but definitely better than FF7.

whoa now thats going to an extreme and i have to agree with kelvin you cant compare this game to SMRPG. even i have to say that agruement would be a waste of time. at least when comparing those two games.

The shoemaker

23rd August 2007, 01:14 AM

hmmm nice opinions there I'm looking forward to this game.:D

Veszerin

23rd August 2007, 04:24 AM

whoa now thats going to an extreme and i have to agree with kelvin you cant compare this game to SMRPG. even i have to say that agruement would be a waste of time. at least when comparing those two games.

hmmm you're right, they're about equal...except SMRPG has aged well. Face it, ff7 should've gone with Sprites.

I'm sorry, it is my mission on the internet to shock people out of the delusion that ff7 is a good RPG.

I guess I really should get something better to do, but it pains me to think of all the people that still believe that ff7 is a decent rpg.

Veszerin

23rd August 2007, 04:36 PM

fine, i shut up about ff7.

link64

14th September 2007, 08:49 PM

I think this video explains what is wrong with FF7.

It's self Censored but I would not recommend kids watching it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0zHbNzEGWA

enjoievan

15th September 2007, 01:32 AM

Chrono Trigger>FF7

Veszerin

17th September 2007, 05:13 PM

Damn right.

retrogamer88

17th September 2007, 09:38 PM

Chrono Trigger>FF7

Super Mario RPG > FF7 + Chrono Trigger

Veszerin

18th September 2007, 01:05 AM

Super Mario RPG > FF7 + Chrono Trigger

I'm gonna have to disagree with that one.

FF7 maybe...but Chrono Trigger? nah...

kelvingreen

18th September 2007, 07:00 PM

I'd agree. Super Mario RPG is good, but better than Chrono Trigger? I think not!

serpent_01

19th September 2007, 02:40 AM

Super Mario RPG is the first game that showed me that i love RPG games.Its one of my most wanted VC game.

enjoievan

22nd September 2007, 02:31 AM

I have an odd feeling it will come out in October or November...

Maybe a week before Mario Galaxy..

The shoemaker

22nd September 2007, 10:49 PM

It's gotta come before christmas, I think good games will be comeing this October November and December, Nintendo will want some more Wii's getting bought so they'll put up some good games.

The shoemaker

30th September 2007, 10:03 PM

This may be my favorite snes game.

Jonno

30th September 2007, 11:36 PM

I have never really played this before. Hopefully it'll be coming to the VC soon as I have heard VERY good things...

The shoemaker

1st October 2007, 03:46 AM

me nithier but the video i saw looked good. Sorry I can't show you the video I saw it a bit ago and my computer is being weird.

BrettCelinski

13th October 2007, 08:27 AM

Well, if you kids liked the Paper Mario games and games like Link to the Past, but want more role-playing style options I think you will really really LOVE this game. I have the SNES cartridge laying around. When it arrives I really will have to fight myself from spending more money to purchase the game again, it's that good. I think it has a great length, no giant epic FF three disc (cartridge?) quest, but it will last a good amount.

Here's a gameplay video since some of you seemed interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSJkkzBXxAI

Mr_Romine

13th October 2007, 08:14 PM

That is disappointing to hear it may not come out on VC it is a good game however if it comes out on DS i guess that will have to do for now

Shortay

13th October 2007, 10:40 PM

There still is hope for it's release in Europe though, what with all the Japanese releases.

The shoemaker

14th October 2007, 02:41 AM

Pit 42

14th October 2007, 02:44 PM

Why was this taken off the ESRB site? Why wouldn't Nintendo want to release the game?

X20A SF

17th October 2007, 01:03 AM

So does that mean that SMRPG won't be released if it was taken of the ESRB site? Because being able to play this game again was part of the reason I bought a Wii.

The shoemaker

17th October 2007, 03:02 AM

Yeah if this game came out it would keep me busy for a long time.

The shoemaker

14th November 2007, 10:54 PM

Hey what's going on vc-reviews says that super mario RPG is no longer ESRB rated does that mean it's not coming any time soon or what?

fartbarker

15th November 2007, 12:52 AM

Hey what's going on vc-reviews says that super mario RPG is no longer ESRB rated does that mean it's not coming any time soon or what?I wonder the same thing. I really wanna try this game out.

IDreamInSound

17th November 2007, 07:11 PM

A fantastic RPG, the only problem is it's too short. It's really not that "kiddy", just a little more accessible than the average RPG.

Pit 42

18th November 2007, 03:13 PM

Well, so much for releasing the game by the end of 2007. I really wanted to try this game, too...

The shoemaker

22nd November 2007, 05:32 AM

2007 not over yet...... this game might be a Christmas present.

Juice_Lee

22nd November 2007, 02:37 PM

In any case, I sure hope it is released at least fairly soon. It is an excellent game and one of the best RPGs ever, for sure.

Bonesaw

7th December 2007, 12:14 AM

It's funny.

I have never played this game nor seen it played. I really wonder if I'm going to love it as much as the community or not. I remember being in the same situation with Zelda: Ocarina of Time. When I finally played it, I hated it. I still hate it. I haven't downloaded it, nor will I. Most overrated game in history. I really hope super Mario RPG doesn't turn out the same way.

Juice_Lee

7th December 2007, 02:14 AM

You are a damn fool if you hate OoT. I guess to each his own, but it is one of the most obvious displays of excellence in video game history, by all standards. I hope you give it a second chance.

SMRPG is a totally different ball game though. For an RPG, it's pretty bizarre. I'd say Mario games almost consist of an entire genre on their own, and to slam that genre into an RPG was a pretty bold move. I think they melded pretty well though. It's a great game.

The shoemaker

7th December 2007, 02:54 AM

Its your opinion and all but what do you dislike about oot, do you just not like 3d zeldas?

Bonesaw

7th December 2007, 03:27 PM

You are a damn fool if you hate OoT. I guess to each his own, but it is one of the most obvious displays of excellence in video game history, by all standards. I hope you give it a second chance.

The game had a lot of flaws.

The pop-sprites were horrible in some spots. For example, in the very beginning when you are about to leave the fairy town, the guy standing by the big hollowed log doesn't actually appear until you are right on top of him.

There was a distinct lack of variety in wandering monsters, especially in the main "world"...there was like four total, two during the day (both annoying) and two at night.

The night/day switch-off happened too quickly. You could actually watch the sun race up and down. It felt tacked-on and unrealistic to me.

Also, there was too much mindless item fetching. At least in the other games, the fetching had a point.

I'd take Windwaker over OoT anyday. I also didn't like Twighlight Princess.

/sorry about the off topic
//just my opinion

SegaFan

7th December 2007, 04:21 PM

What you said are mainly technical problems with OOT, but since OOT was the first game of its kind isn't that forgivable? I think most people regard OOT as such a classic because they'd never played anything like it before. My theory is that the first 3D Zelda game you play will always be your favourite, then after that they're all too similar, and Ocarina was my first.

Tull

7th December 2007, 04:29 PM

2d Zelda>3d Zelda

hippiecrite

7th December 2007, 05:37 PM

The game had a lot of flaws.

The pop-sprites were horrible in some spots. For example, in the very beginning when you are about to leave the fairy town, the guy standing by the big hollowed log doesn't actually appear until you are right on top of him.

That's a limitation of the N64 hardware itself. While in a modern game that would be inexcusable it shouldn't be that big of a deal for a N64 title, especially since most games of that era would mask this limitation with obscene amounts of fog.

There was a distinct lack of variety in wandering monsters, especially in the main "world"...there was like four total, two during the day (both annoying) and two at night.

Again, limitations due to the size of the cart. This game was massive and barely fit on the 32MB cart it was stored on. The designers had to make some exceptions. In contrast though, one of the things that annoyed me about Twilight Princess was how empty the world felt. For such a huge rendition of Hyrule, it was certainly lacking in enemies, hidden caves and places to explore.

The night/day switch-off happened too quickly. You could actually watch the sun race up and down. It felt tacked-on and unrealistic to me.

It is a fast transition but at the time it was cool to see a game incorporate such a feature. It made the world feel more alive. Remember though that this game was made in 1998. For that time it was a monumental achievement. If you play it now it doesn't hold the same appeal I guess due to what has come after it, but the same thing can be said about something like Super Mario Bros. If you never played SMB in the 80s and then compared it to Galaxy, of course Galaxy is going to be more appealing.

Also, there was too much mindless item fetching. At least in the other games, the fetching had a point.

Not quite sure what fetching you're referring too. The story based stuff like the Keys to the Door of Time and the Medallions or the optional "fetch quest" to get the Biggoron sword?

Bonesaw

7th December 2007, 09:13 PM

Well, you can blame it on memory limitations if you want. That still doesn't change anything for me though. Maybe they should have scaled it back so that they wouldn't have to sacrifice some of those technical aspects that I referred to.

I also don't consider OoT to be the first of its kind. Its a free-roaming 3d game. I wouldn't hesitate to rate Banjo Kazooie and Mario 64 well above OoT.

I know this opinion of mine is in an extreme minority...

hippiecrite

8th December 2007, 01:32 AM

Practically every N64 game has that pop up problem though, it's not just specific to Ocarina. Mario 64 has it when trees and Goombas just pop out of thin air, Star Fox 64 has ships and asteroids just appear out of the blue. I'd rather have stuff pop up in the distance but see most of the level than use the cheap fog trick like Turok, Shadows of the Empire and Castlevania did to hide enemy spawns. I just think it's silly to point out things as flaws that are beyond what the system was capable of.

It's a Zelda game which means the focus is more on exploration and puzzle solving than combat. I'd rather more dungeons to explore than have them cut a few out so that I can fight a few more monsters in Hyrule Field, which served as nothing more than a hub to get from zone to zone.