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Zombie
16th September 2007, 03:36 PM
I noticed that not even one of the Metal Slug games is planned to come out. I know that Metal Slug: Anthology came out, but I hear it didn't even support the classic controller! I'm sure not everyone wants to buy the whole collection (myself included), maybe just one or two. So it's a disappointment for me as I probably won't buy the Anthology.:(
SKTTR
16th September 2007, 05:51 PM
I wouldn't buy the anthology,
but instead I would download one game of the series
to see if it's worth to get the anthology.
Shortay
16th September 2007, 08:36 PM
I've played the anthology, and I thought it was great fun (especially in 2 player co-op) so I'd definitely get one of the games if they came out on the VC. Plus I'm yet to download a shooter from the VC, but nervously comtemplating getting Gunstar Heroes...
Pegasus
16th September 2007, 09:09 PM
The problem is, though, that SNK has stated that they're not planning on releasing any of the Metal Slug games on the VC because of the existence of the aforementioned anthology.
Pit 42
16th September 2007, 11:13 PM
Anthology isn't as bad as it seems. You can control it with either Wiimote sideways, Wiimote + nunchuk, or GC controller. That's pretty fair, I think.
Clueless
17th September 2007, 07:40 AM
I've played the anthology, and I thought it was great fun (especially in 2 player co-op) so I'd definitely get one of the games if they came out on the VC. Plus I'm yet to download a shooter from the VC, but nervously comtemplating getting Gunstar Heroes...
Get Gunstar Heroes, now. All the cool kids are doing it.
link64
17th September 2007, 05:08 PM
I'd get contra 3 instead to be honest.
Shortay
17th September 2007, 08:00 PM
Get Gunstar Heroes, now. All the cool kids are doing it.
I'd get contra 3 instead to be honest.
Interesting... :) I think I'm just gonna get Gunstar Heroes, only 'cause Contra 3 is supposed to be a lot harder... though Gunstar Heroes does look very hectic (in a difficult way)
SKTTR
17th September 2007, 09:04 PM
It's that easy:
If you want a very good and EASY two-player co-op action game get Gunstar Heroes.
If you want a very good and HARD two-player co-op action game get Super Probotector / Contra III.
Wolfman
17th September 2007, 11:03 PM
It's that easy:
If you want a very good and EASY two-player co-op action game get Gunstar Heroes.
If you want a very good and HARD two-player co-op action game get Super Probotector / Contra III.
Get both. They're both incredible. There are rumors that the team of developers who made Gunstar Heroes actually worked on Contra III before Treasure split from Konami.
Speaking of treasure, I hope we see Mischief Makers for the N64 VC. I loved that game, even though I was too young to really appreciate it at the time...
And I'd like to see the original N64 release of Bangai-O, as well, but I doubt.
jackaroo
23rd September 2007, 11:37 PM
Ive got the anthology and i must say its great. But one complaint is that most control options are absolute crap. The best is the wii on its side. The controls are simple that way and work well with the only motion being a flick of the remote to throw a grenade which works well.
It has all the games on too which would normally cost about 20 euros just for the stand alone so this game is a bargain. I recommend it to anyone and recommend not waiting for it to be released on VC. If your not sure about it then try renting it :cool:.
Zombie
24th September 2007, 12:54 AM
I traded in some games and bought the anthology a few days ago,having fun with it, especially in two play co-op. Though I must say the controls are lame. I always go w/ the wiimote on it's side, which is the best option though still, having to flick your controller to throw a grenade?:confused:
Oh well, glad I bought it anyway.
Angelic Lapras King
24th September 2007, 02:50 AM
I don't think we got the anthology here in Europe. Besides, whenever they start running out of titles, I bet we ll see em on the VC...
EDIT
Ah, we did but I still reckon we ll see em on the VC
ICEknight
26th September 2007, 11:06 PM
I don't think we got the anthology here in Europe.
Yes we did.
coire
8th October 2007, 05:27 PM
Yeah, I got the Anthology, Its Brilliant, and Its the Only way I know of to Play Metal slug 6.
ICEknight
9th October 2007, 10:01 AM
It's a shame that the only decent control scheme requires the GameCube controller, though.
...And also, the resolution in all the games but MS6 is stretched a bit awkwardly.
Zombie
9th October 2007, 02:40 PM
It's a shame that the only decent control scheme requires the GameCube controller, though.
I think I'd have to disagree, I find playing with the gamecube controller rather awkward. Though I'm not completley satified with it, the wii remote on it's side is the only bearable one for me.
Guess it's just a personal preferance. :)
ICEknight
9th October 2007, 02:45 PM
Having to waggle the controller each time you want to throw a grenade is not what I'd call satisfying.
On the other hand, using X for jumping, A for shooting and B for grenades works quite nicely for me.
SegaFan
9th October 2007, 08:03 PM
I really want to get Metal Slug Anthology but the controls are the only thing that's putting me off. Playing a 2D shooter with the analogue stick would be out of the question for me. There's no Gamecube D-pad support either so I can't even use my Hori digital pad. The other control methods that use the D-pad don't appeal to me because I want an authentic game (I've never played the series before). I could always get the PS2 version, I suppose, but the PAL version doesn't support 60Hz, so I don't know what to do.
Shortay
9th October 2007, 08:12 PM
I really want to get Metal Slug Anthology but the controls are the only thing that's putting me off. Playing a 2D shooter with the analogue stick would be out of the question for me. There's no Gamecube D-pad support either so I can't even use my Hori digital pad. The other control methods that use the D-pad don't appeal to me because I want an authentic game (I've never played the series before). I could always get the PS2 version, I suppose, but the PAL version doesn't support 60Hz, so I don't know what to do.
What's wrong with the wii remote on it's side though, I've played it like that and it feels right.
SegaFan
9th October 2007, 10:18 PM
What's wrong with the wii remote on it's side though, I've played it like that and it feels right.
Well like ICEknight said, it's not really satisfactory to have to shake the controller to throw grenades.
It's just so frustrating that the compilation could've so easily been perfect if they had included classic controller support.
Shortay
9th October 2007, 10:23 PM
Well like ICEknight said, it's not really satisfactory to have to shake the controller to throw grenades.
It's just so frustrating that the compilation could've so easily been perfect if they had included classic controller support.
I didn't really care about satisfaction, I was happy enough to have some form of motion controls, cosidering it is a Wii game.
SegaFan
9th October 2007, 10:28 PM
But they're not Wii games. I want to play them for the first time how they were originally meant to be played, I might be interested in some variations once I've played them once already but for the first time I want it the same as the original.
So, what do most people think, I'd like to hear from people who know the series (I've never played it); Should I buy the Wii version and go without the original controls, or the PS2 version and go without 60Hz?
yoshi175
10th October 2007, 12:11 AM
I think it work fine with shaking the remote to throw grenades
ICEknight
11th October 2007, 08:27 PM
Playing a 2D shooter with the analogue stick would be out of the question for me. There's no Gamecube D-pad support either so I can't even use my Hori digital pad. The other control methods that use the D-pad don't appeal to me because I want an authentic game (I've never played the series before).
To be honest, the analogue stick works better than I thought for the Metal Slugs, not feeling sloppy at all. In fact, I'm thinking it might work better than the PS2 D-pad, seeing how you must abuse the diagonals to aim upwards while running.
So I'd go for the Wii Anthology, plus a Wavebird controller (that's what I did).
Shortay
11th October 2007, 08:39 PM
I think it work fine with shaking the remote to throw grenades
As do I :)
ICEknight
11th October 2007, 10:43 PM
Waggling the controller makes you lose gameplay precision, specially when you're trying to dodge all the stuff that's going on.
But if you are just setting it to unlimited continues and you don't care about dying 97609690986 times, I guess that won't matter.
Shortay
11th October 2007, 10:55 PM
But if you are just setting it to unlimited continues and you don't care about dying 97609690986 times, I guess that won't matter.
Exactly what I was goin to say.
yoshi175
11th October 2007, 11:04 PM
Waggling the controller makes you lose gameplay precision, specially when you're trying to dodge all the stuff that's going on.
But if you are just setting it to unlimited continues and you don't care about dying 97609690986 times, I guess that won't matter.
Wow you must be not that good at the game to dies that much I died at least 97609690940 times less than that on my first play
whatever... I don't see anything wrong with the controls how they are.
Tull
12th October 2007, 12:15 AM
Wow you must be not that good at the game to dies that much I died at least 97609690940 times less than that on my first play
whatever... I don't see anything wrong with the controls how they are.
Relax. Shure you read the post?
jackaroo
12th October 2007, 12:16 AM
Shaking to throw a grenade is fine. Its only a simple flick. Not much effort required. And the other controls are perfect. Other than that i know it plays well on PSP too. And for PS2 i cant say. Havent played it but i guess it would be good. Go with whatever but personally out of Wii and PSP id go with Wii.
Shortay
12th October 2007, 08:29 AM
Shaking to throw a grenade is fine. Its only a simple flick. Not much effort required. And the other controls are perfect. Other than that i know it plays well on PSP too. And for PS2 i cant say. Havent played it but i guess it would be good. Go with whatever but personally out of Wii and PSP id go with Wii.
I agree :) At least it adds a bit of the Wii's capabilities into the game.
SegaFan
12th October 2007, 09:51 AM
But if adding "Wii's capabilities" makes the game harder overall (even if it's only slightly harder) then that's not a good use of it, I'd rather play with a proper controller. The analogue stick really is almost out of the question for me, I really hate using analogue for 2D games, and the shaking-the-controller method I'm still not sure about. I can see all your advice but I'm still leaning towards the PS2 version at the moment (as much as I hate the PS2).
ICEknight
12th October 2007, 06:31 PM
Between analogue controls and 50hz, IŽd choose the analogue, hands down. It really doesnŽt feel out of place unlike the waggling, and it wonŽt be bothering you constantly unlike the slow refresh rate.
Shortay
12th October 2007, 11:25 PM
But if adding "Wii's capabilities" makes the game harder overall (even if it's only slightly harder) then that's not a good use of it, I'd rather play with a proper controller. The analogue stick really is almost out of the question for me, I really hate using analogue for 2D games, and the shaking-the-controller method I'm still not sure about. I can see all your advice but I'm still leaning towards the PS2 version at the moment (as much as I hate the PS2).
I didn't think it made it harder though IMO
coire
13th October 2007, 01:12 AM
I think the Wii remote on its side is Great for this Game, Its great for simplicity. And I think shaking the wii remote for Bombs is very 'satisfying' whatever was meant by that.
ICEknight
13th October 2007, 01:04 PM
You guys ever played the originals with a 3 button layout? You just can't compare.
coire
18th November 2007, 02:59 PM
I might try to play the Anthology with this 'Shaft' controller, whenever it comes out - assuming it doubles as a Gamecube controller.
marioxb
7th February 2008, 03:32 PM
The really odd thing about the GameCube controller for this game is that you HAVE to use the digital pad to select the options and choose the games. The analog doesn't work. Playing the game is the exact opposite. The manual actually states that you can use the control pad, so I guess it was an error that you can't.
What I am going to try is this:
http://www.ultimarc.com/wii.html
Played using the Left Analog mode. The I-PAC would also be required to connect to actual buttons and sticks to use. I'm gonna try to wire it into two SNES controllers. It's gonna cost around $80+ for two players, but I want to do it anyway so I can play Mega Man Anniversary Collection and others, (like the Virtual Console games that can't have customizable controls) properly with an SNES controller. I was originally going to solder to a PS2 controller (and use adapters so I can use that PS2 controller on GameCube, as well as Xbox), similar to what this guy did w/ an Xbox controller over at: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=592131:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7738/snescontrollerwholelowrzi6.jpg
But I'm not sure how to do it w/ the analog required for Metal Slug. And this way I have less soldering to do. I'll let everyone know how it turns out.
coire
8th February 2008, 11:14 PM
Whoa. That looks like a lot of work, But I bet it'd be worth it!
Refa
15th July 2008, 04:36 PM
I really want to get the Metal Slug Anthology for the Wii, as it has pretty much every Metal Slug game (I read on Wikipedia that they were releasing Metal Slug DS, as well as the Game Boy Advance version). The only thing that put me off is the questionable controls and I heard that they last 2 or so Metal Slugs don't have a few extra features that they put in the first four or so. On the other hand, they just released Metal Slug on the Virtual Console, and that would be the prefrential buy (Classic Controller support), if not for one thing. The VC version is only one game. I know that SNK said they were not releasing Metal Slug games on the VC, but after the release of the initial Metal Slug, do you think they are going to release further Metal Slug games? And the fact that if they released all of the Metal Slug games, it would cost more than the anthology. What do you think I should get (I'm leaning towards the Anthology, myself) ?
Tull
15th July 2008, 09:50 PM
What do you think I should get (I'm leaning towards the Anthology, myself) ?
Anthology PS2 (If not its some purity issues in it? If so the VC versions)
Zork
16th July 2008, 05:34 AM
I know that SNK said they were not releasing Metal Slug games on the VC, but after the release of the initial Metal Slug, do you think they are going to release further Metal Slug games? ... What do you think I should get (I'm leaning towards the Anthology, myself) ?
I doubt they will release more Metal Slug games any time soon. In any case, do you really want to fill over half of your Wii's storage with Metal Slug games? Metal Slug 1 for VC is 240 blocks.
See also my post here:
http://www.vc-forums.com/metal-slug-review-t6753.html
If you really want all the games, you should probably get Anthology. It's just too bad the controls are not as good as they could be.
slangman
22nd July 2008, 02:01 PM
I doubt more Metal Slug games are coming out to the VC soon but the Wii anthlogy version isn't too bad. Besides its way cheaper then downloading the whole collection for 900 points each. And the gamecube controler works fine with the anthlogy collection.
coire
23rd July 2008, 12:59 AM
I don't know why people keep damning the controls so much in the Anthology. Yeah, there are some gimmick control options, but you don't have to use them. The remote on its side works great for me!
ICEknight
25th July 2008, 01:50 PM
I don't know why people keep damning the controls so much in the Anthology. Yeah, there are some gimmick control options, but you don't have to use them. The remote on its side works great for me! ...The wiimote on its side requires you to shake it, for the grenades.
coire
25th July 2008, 03:27 PM
...The wiimote on its side requires you to shake it, for the grenades.
It doesn't require you to 'shake' the control repeatedly, you just have to flick your wrists once to throw a grenade. It doesn't get in the way at all and if you don't like that, then you can use a Gamecube controller.
KillerInstinctFan
27th July 2008, 11:39 AM
Well i have the anthology so i wouldnt download all metal slug games form the VC because i will be waiting for more games to come. although my favourite metal slug game is Metal Slug 5
Angelic Lapras King
27th July 2008, 02:24 PM
I doubt they will release more Metal Slug games any time soon.
Oh I m pretty sure we will. They were confident enough to put the first on there and we ve been spoilt with quite a few Neo Geo games lately.
Refa
29th September 2008, 11:01 PM
They might release the rest of the Metal Slug games on the VC, but the Neo Geo titles NOT found in Neo Geo Collection are next to none, which is a dissapointment.
On the thought of Metal Slug Anthology, do you think the PS2 or the Wii one is better, as I one a PS2 and a Wii.
coire
1st October 2008, 11:09 PM
They might release the rest of the Metal Slug games on the VC, but the Neo Geo titles NOT found in Neo Geo Collection are next to none, which is a dissapointment.
On the thought of Metal Slug Anthology, do you think the PS2 or the Wii one is better, as I one a PS2 and a Wii.
I have the Wii version, and I really enjoy it, but I assume the PS2 version is the same, with less control schemes. Some of the controls on the Wii version are ridiculous, but there are a few I like. I'd go with whichever is cheaper.
Refa
2nd October 2008, 01:54 AM
I have the Wii version, and I really enjoy it, but I assume the PS2 version is the same, with less control schemes. Some of the controls on the Wii version are ridiculous, but there are a few I like. I'd go with whichever is cheaper.
Which would be the PS2 version.
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