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Taint Smack
30th April 2007, 09:13 PM
In your opinion, what is the best Sonic the Hedgehog game out of the Megadrive/Genesis entries?

I was going to purchase the original, but was afraid to because I've heard 2 was the best one. I'm too strict on Wii Points to buy each game. Anyway, post your answers, I'm too lazy to make a poll. :P

jedidon007
30th April 2007, 10:24 PM
tbh i liked all of them, their all my favourites.

iNma
30th April 2007, 10:30 PM
Oooh.
My personal favourite is Sonic 2. Best stage design, and just enough features without going over the top. Diclaimer: they're all great.

However, may I suggest you buy the Sonic Mega Collection for the Gamecube, which includes all of the MD Sonic games as well as some other gems (the US version has Comix Zone, and they all have Ristar and a couple of others), for hella cheap?
Here's one I made earlier (and by made, I mean found on eBay):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sonic-Mega-Collection-GameCube-BRAND-NEW-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ160111574105QQihZ006QQcategoryZ 62053QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

KeatsSeven
30th April 2007, 11:36 PM
sonic 2 by a country mile

no1 was pretty good but limited and the rest were just too over the top with over large levels

2 had perfect, tight levels with just the right amount of potential exploration.

but then sonic rush beats them al......

kelvingreen
30th April 2007, 11:36 PM
I believe the Sonic Mega Collection has the games PAL optimised too, if that's an issue for you.

Sonic 2 is easily the best of the bunch. One of the best platformers ever made, and still amazingly playable even today.

Taint Smack
1st May 2007, 12:58 AM
Oooh.
My personal favourite is Sonic 2. Best stage design, and just enough features without going over the top. Diclaimer: they're all great.

However, may I suggest you buy the Sonic Mega Collection for the Gamecube, which includes all of the MD Sonic games as well as some other gems (the US version has Comix Zone, and they all have Ristar and a couple of others), for hella cheap?
Here's one I made earlier (and by made, I mean found on eBay):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sonic-Mega-Collection-GameCube-BRAND-NEW-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ160111574105QQihZ006QQcategoryZ 62053QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Yeah, I remember renting Mega Collection. It's a fantastic bundle, from what I remember. See, I've never owned a Genesis, so I haven't really gotten to experience the old Sonic games.

Maybe I'll consider purchasing a used copy of Mega Collection. After all, it is cheaper than buying each game on VC separately.

Joxe
1st May 2007, 11:30 AM
I would aim to buy the Mega Collection since you get 7 games. And I don't think it costs a lot these days.

So go for that, but he you only want one game then Sonic 2 is the best one.

RMA
1st May 2007, 11:46 AM
Starting to sound like a bit of broken record but Sonic 2 by a country mile. As already stated best level design by a mile (particularly the spectacular casino level) and the addition of the sonic superspin attack really moved the gameplay on.

Kevin
1st May 2007, 12:50 PM
Probably Sonic 3 & Knuckles. That was awesome! The only genesis sonic game I never really go into was 3d blast. All the others I love.

Taint Smack
1st May 2007, 11:25 PM
I had 3D Blast for the Saturn. Horrible, horrible game.

Joxe
2nd May 2007, 08:02 AM
3D Blast was in many ways the beginning of the end for Sonic...
Let's pray that Sonic will become a side-scrolling game just to save him.

iNma
2nd May 2007, 06:12 PM
Though it's an easy thing to do, I think everyone forgets just how good the handheld Sonic games have consistently been.

Sonic Advance 1-3 were brilliant games, and I think Sonic Rush on the DS is the best Sonic game since the MD days. Sonic Rush Adventure is coming out on the DS next an I'm right on top of that.

Goes to show that Sonic really is best in 2D :D

Joxe
2nd May 2007, 06:20 PM
Yeah, you're right about that one. Haven't played the handheld hands a lot but they are great fun and shows how Sonic should be.

Taint Smack
2nd May 2007, 11:24 PM
I rented Sonic Rush a while ago, it was great.

Sonic Rush Adventure sounds like a 3D Platformer, though... :o

iNma
2nd May 2007, 11:37 PM
Nah, it's still the same 2D levels with 3D bosses and bonus games. Not so different from teh good old days, in other words.

Rush was a fantastic game, didn't put it down until I got S ranks on every level. Only problem is, that didn't take as long as I'd like. Hopefully Rush Adventure will sort that problem. If it does, it'll be incredible.

Kevin
7th May 2007, 01:11 PM
3D Blast was in many ways the beginning of the end for Sonic...
Let's pray that Sonic will become a side-scrolling game just to save him.

Well said. That pretty much sums it up. All the 3d games weren't that good at all.

kelvingreen
7th May 2007, 04:35 PM
Oh, I don't know, I'm quite enjoying Secret Rings, but you could argue that it's not really 3D at all, since the playing field is restricted at most points to a 2D plane.

Kouta
7th May 2007, 10:29 PM
It would have to be Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Coming in second is Sonic 2.

I finished S3&K with all the different char combinations for fun :)
I have Sonic 1, 2, 3 and the Sonic and Knuckles uber cartridge I got from eBay awhile ago, although my Genesis is pretty old and the sound doesnt work most of the time :\

Kevin
8th May 2007, 12:53 PM
Oh, I don't know, I'm quite enjoying Secret Rings, but you could argue that it's not really 3D at all, since the playing field is restricted at most points to a 2D plane.

Really? Everybody has told me it sucked and that's what kept me from buying it.

It would have to be Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Coming in second is Sonic 2.

Agreed! :wink: The sonic game that I've played the most is Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

kelvingreen
8th May 2007, 08:09 PM
Really? Everybody has told me it sucked and that's what kept me from buying it.
I like it a lot. It's not perfect, but if you find it used, it's definitely worth buying. I bought it new, and I'm not disappointed.

Kevin
9th May 2007, 12:05 PM
Really? Everybody has told me it sucked and that's what kept me from buying it.
I like it a lot. It's not perfect, but if you find it used, it's definitely worth buying. I bought it new, and I'm not disappointed.

Hmm, maybe I'll rent it. 8)

dk_xcalibur
9th May 2007, 07:57 PM
Sonic 2 is awesome! In some ways I like it better then Super Mario World.

I also like Sonic Spinball even though most people don't.

My question is how are they going to do Sonic & Knuckles' "lock-on technology"? Will you need to download Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 to use this feature or will Sonic & Knuckles allow the player to play these features without the other two games?

Kevin
10th May 2007, 12:46 PM
Sonic 2 is awesome! In some ways I like it better then Super Mario World.

I also like Sonic Spinball even though most people don't.

My question is how are they going to do Sonic & Knuckles' "lock-on technology"? Will you need to download Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 to use this feature or will Sonic & Knuckles allow the player to play these features without the other two games?

:idea: My guess is that when they release Sonic 3, they'll release a patch to allow you to play Sonic 2 & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles or when Sonic and Knuckles is released they'll release the patch with the game making it more expensive. That's my guess, I'm interested in everybody's theories! So what's yours?

kelvingreen
10th May 2007, 02:09 PM
Honestly, I think they'll release Sonic 2 & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles as unique, separate, downloads, that you'll have to pay for again. I hope to be wrong, but I doubt it.

Every ROM of Sonic & Knuckles I've seen has separated them like this, so it may be the only way to do it.

dk_xcalibur
10th May 2007, 03:42 PM
In my opinion, I don't think we'll see Sonic & Knuckles but I also hope to be wrong. Maybe they'll release all three games regularly and give free copies of Sonic 2 & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles to people who have downloaded the other three games I hope I’m right about this.

dk_xcalibur
10th May 2007, 03:49 PM
I would be a happy player if they just release Sonic 2.

Kevin
11th May 2007, 12:30 PM
I would be a happy player if they just release Sonic 2.

They're going too. Don't worry! 8)

dk_xcalibur
14th May 2007, 08:56 PM
I would be a happy player if they just release Sonic 2.

They're going too. Don't worry! 8)

I'm not worried.

Mendez
26th May 2007, 11:32 AM
The best one is probaby Sonic The Hedgehog 2, though 1+3 are still great.

Angelic Lapras King
6th July 2007, 10:29 AM
Oh, I don't know, I'm quite enjoying Secret Rings, but you could argue that it's not really 3D at all, since the playing field is restricted at most points to a 2D plane.

Really? Everybody has told me it sucked and that's what kept me from buying it.

I have Secrect Rings and its bloody good. It takes awhile to get used to, but once you do the good times roll. ^^

Sonic 3 and Knuckles is my absolute fav. Ah, the hours I d waste finishing that game over and over again. :)

I reckon they will just give us the S+K games as separete downloads. Its a shame they can't just offer a discount to those who own Sonic 2+3 already (And likewise to the SF2 sequals)

"L"
6th July 2007, 12:16 PM
Sonic 2 ftw!

I didn't like secret rings at all, it was such a bore to me.

Pegasus
6th July 2007, 04:05 PM
All the 3D Sonic games haven't been more than mediocre. Sonic is just much better in 2D. That said, while some of the newer GBA and DS titles might be fun and blazing fast (i.e. Sonic Rush) I still prefer the originals. The former just feel less like platformers and more like races to get to the end, while the latter have a much better balance of the two.

It'll be interesting to see how Bioware's Sonic RPG will turn out.

Taint Smack
6th July 2007, 04:11 PM
Sonic RPG? I'm going to look that up.

Nah, I'm too lazy to do that.

iNma
6th July 2007, 05:19 PM
Sonic RPG? I'm going to look that up.

Nah, I'm too lazy to do that.

Short version: Bioware announced that their long-awaited RPG for the DS is a game based on the Sonic IP. Which alternately made people gag and cry tears of happiness. I was afflicted by the former, unfortunately.

Taint Smack
6th July 2007, 08:18 PM
Sonic RPG? I'm going to look that up.

Nah, I'm too lazy to do that.

Short version: Bioware announced that their long-awaited RPG for the DS is a game based on the Sonic IP. Which alternately made people gag and cry tears of happiness. I was afflicted by the former, unfortunately.
Neato! Not only did I learn something new today, but I also witnessed disappointment at someone else's disposal.

That's kind of a pick-me-up. :)

Ashdude
8th August 2007, 06:32 AM
Sonic 2 is probably the best. But I've got a special fondness of Sonic 1. It was the first 16-bit game that I owned and it's what sold me on the Genesis back in 1991.

Taint Smack
9th August 2007, 01:34 AM
To be honest, I never really liked Sonic. It feels too linear to me, for some reason. That's why I only wanted to buy one Sonic game for my VC collection, I'm more of a Mario and Donkey Kong guy anyway.

Serge.EXE
11th August 2007, 05:35 AM
The best Sonic game?

That would be Sonic 3 and Knuckles (The Sonic 3 cart plugged into the Sonic and Knuckles cart)

Those were fun times. 14 Chaos Emeralds (Well, 7 Chaos and 7 Super Emeralds), great level designs, and of course, Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic

SegaFan
11th August 2007, 09:59 AM
I know I'm replying to an old topic but.

Out of the Mega Drive games my order of preference goes:

1: Sonic the Hedgehog
2: Sonic 3 & Knuckles (the two aren't worth playing individually)
3: Sonic 2
4: Sonic CD
6: Sonic Spinball
7: Sonic 3D

The Saturn version of Sonic 3D is actually a lot better than the Mega Drive version. It has good 3D bonus levels and the soundtrack is excelent. It's still not a great game but I enjoyed it for what it was (wheras I couldn't enjoy the Mega Drive version at all).

But my favourite Sonic game of all time is Sonic Adventure! And yes, I do like most of the 3D Sonic games.

Nintendu-64
3rd December 2007, 02:33 PM
Sonic 3 & Sonic & Knuckles are still really fun. But the real fun was in connecting them together and playing the full "Sonic 3 & Knuckles" game.

ICEknight
3rd December 2007, 03:03 PM
Sonic CD. I'm gonna get it as soon as it hits the VC (only if they release the original, unaltered PAL and/or Japanese versions over here).

gardawg62
4th December 2007, 07:07 PM
Sonic 3. I hated 3D blast, but Sonic CD was awesome.

darthmix
4th December 2007, 09:26 PM
Sonic 2 & 3 are about tied. I'll go with 2 just because it's the first one I played and is still my personal fav, even though I can't really say it's better than 3.

Never played S&K or Sonic CD.

mixer152
5th December 2007, 10:34 PM
Sonic 3 & Knuckles combined >>>>>>>>> _______________

clintmccorkle
9th December 2007, 11:09 PM
In my eyes I liked Sonic 3 the best it introduced Knuckles and you learn to hate how he screws you in the story line lol. I like sonic 3 then 2 and 1. 3D Blast is absolutly horrible in sonic 3 you could save to thats always a plus.

The shoemaker
10th December 2007, 04:19 AM
You can save in sonic 3!?!?!

ICEknight
10th December 2007, 01:45 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!1!1

You can.

The shoemaker
12th December 2007, 01:21 AM
Like the one in the vc right now sonic the hedgehog 3?

jackaroo
12th December 2007, 02:58 PM
Like the one in the vc right now sonic the hedgehog 3?

Yes sonic 3 has a save feature. It will save at the beginning of each level. However if you get to act 2 in a level then go off and come back on and load your game it will start you back at act 1. But i think sonic 2 is best. Then sonic 3 & knuckles. Then Sonic 3 solo. Then Sonic & Knuckles solo. Then sonic 1.
I love sonic 1. But after playing the other ones you can see its flaws and see that the speed of it sucks compared to the others. Despite the fact it is still pretty fast.

Angelic Lapras King
12th December 2007, 04:47 PM
Should be noted that S+K didnt have a save feature, unless you combained Sonic 3 with it.

Rossi
15th December 2007, 10:03 PM
Sonic 2, it just has this edge over the rest...

TechnoSuperguy
15th December 2007, 10:26 PM
Sonic 2, for sure. Sonic 1 seemed slower than the rest, and S3&K... well, just wasn't quite as good as S2. Don't get me wrong; S3&K is a superb game, and the music is wonderful (I still adore the Death Egg Zone boss music), but Sonic 2 is just a bit better.

SegaFan
16th December 2007, 12:06 AM
You can save in sonic 3!?!?!
The first Sonic game with the save function was Sonic CD, but that made it too quick to complete (but it was saved by the time trial feature). I'm not a huge fan of Sonic CD. Sonic 3 got the balance much better with saving.

Should be noted that S+K didnt have a save feature, unless you combained Sonic 3 with it.
I see Sonic & Knuckles as more of an expansion pack than a game on its own. In a way I don't think they should have allowed you to play it on its own, they should have made it so it only works when plugged into Sonic 2 or 3 (or Sonic 1 for the bonus game), it's not really playable on its own.

The shoemaker
16th December 2007, 01:03 AM
Hmm so maybe I should get sonic 3

jackaroo
16th December 2007, 01:22 AM
Hmm so maybe I should get sonic 3

Just get every sonic platformer that comes out :D

ICEknight
16th December 2007, 01:24 AM
Hmm so maybe I should get sonic 3
You'd better wait for Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Sonic 3 is just half of the cake.

Shortay
16th December 2007, 01:31 AM
Just get every sonic platformer that comes out :D

Why would you say that jack? You hate all Sonic games and think Mario is much better :lol:

coire
16th December 2007, 01:42 AM
Sonic one. Whenever I'm bored I enter in the Code and Go to Robotnik/Eggman for the Last fight. It's dead easy....

jackaroo
16th December 2007, 01:49 AM
Why would you say that jack? You hate all Sonic games and think Mario is much better :lol:

You got me confused with someone else. I like this mario smiley :mario-face: more than his games :lol:

Shortay
16th December 2007, 01:52 AM
You got me confused with someone else. I like this mario smiley :mario-face: more than his games :lol:

Now that's a tad far :mad: Never insult thee old plumber :lol:

jackaroo
16th December 2007, 02:02 AM
Now that's a tad far :mad: Never insult thee old plumber :lol:

This is a topic about sonic. Since sonic and mario are rivals i think that in this topic we have a right to bash mario. And you can go bash sonic in your stupid little fat moustached faced mario topics :lol:.

................im not gonna make many friends on these forums am i :(....... lol

TechnoSuperguy
16th December 2007, 02:06 AM
This is a topic about sonic. Since sonic and mario are rivals i think that in this topic we have a right to bash mario. And you can go bash sonic in your stupid little fat moustached faced mario topics :lol:.

................im not gonna make many friends on these forums am i :(....... lol
Hear hear, brother. Too bad you probably just turned everyone against you with that comment about Mario. XD

Shortay
16th December 2007, 02:07 AM
This is a topic about sonic. Since sonic and mario are rivals i think that in this topic we have a right to bash mario. And you can go bash sonic in your stupid little fat moustached faced mario topics :lol:.

................im not gonna make many friends on these forums am i :(....... lol

Don't worry, I'm your mate :) Even if you do like Sonic more than Mario...

coire
16th December 2007, 02:12 AM
Everybody Point and Stare Coldly at the Mario Hater! :neutral:

I'm Only kidding, You'll Fit Here like a glove.

jackaroo
16th December 2007, 02:49 AM
Hear hear, brother. Too bad you probably just turned everyone against you with that comment about Mario. XD

At least someone here knows how great sonic is ;)

Don't worry, I'm your mate Even if you do like Sonic more than Mario...

Im not sure if i want you as my mate if you like mario more than sonic :confused: lol oj.

Everybody Point and Stare Coldly at the Mario Hater!

I'm Only kidding, You'll Fit Here like a glove.

Not all gloves fit :o lol. Oh well. I dont mind being the black sheep of the forums lol.

The shoemaker
16th December 2007, 03:31 AM
Everybody Point and Stare Coldly at the Mario Hater! :neutral:

I'm Only kidding, You'll Fit Here like a glove.

A slippery glove. I dunno I like mario and sonic the same. Marios a fat plummer that flys around in space shooting fireballs everywhere, and sonics a cool fast hedgehog that's not afraid to talk every now and then.

WiiGamer24
28th December 2007, 07:47 PM
A slippery glove. I dunno I like mario and sonic the same. Marios a fat plummer that flys around in space shooting fireballs everywhere, and sonics a cool fast hedgehog that's not afraid to talk every now and then.That's what ruined Sonic games forever. In the good old Mega Drive days Sonic games were brilliant Sonic never said a word - Sega let the awesome gameplay do the talking. But then Sonic Adventure came along, Sonic opened his mouth, loads of unnessecary characters showed up (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik and maybe Amy is all you need) and the Sonic series went downhill from there. All Mario says is "yipee!", "woah" and "it's a me a Mario" and his games are consistantly fantastic.

The best Sonic game has to be Sonic 3 and Knuckles. The game was huge and you took different routes through the game depending on what character you chose.

NESgamer
28th December 2007, 09:58 PM
First post xP, been lurking a while but...

If i wanted to buy a Sonic, which one should i download?. I only want to download one for now, because i only have wii points for 1 until i buy more!.

So what's the definitive Sonic that i have to have?. Have in mind i never played them (well for a short while in a store long long time ago lol, had the NES and SNES).

Thanks a lot. Awesome forum.:o

Edit: About Sonic and Mario, i don't think is fair for me to say Mario, because i'm a Mario fan and never played a Sonic game xP, but hey!, they both will be on SSBB!, it's going to be awesome to beat the crap out of each other, old school console war!.Sonic design is very cool and has been always, but somehow i don't like talking animals xP.

The shoemaker
30th December 2007, 02:57 AM
That's what ruined Sonic games forever. In the good old Mega Drive days Sonic games were brilliant Sonic never said a word - Sega let the awesome gameplay do the talking. But then Sonic Adventure came along, Sonic opened his mouth, loads of unnessecary characters showed up (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik and maybe Amy is all you need) and the Sonic series went downhill from there. All Mario says is "yipee!", "woah" and "it's a me a Mario" and his games are consistantly fantastic.

The best Sonic game has to be Sonic 3 and Knuckles. The game was huge and you took different routes through the game depending on what character you chose.

In mario vs. DK mario says full sentences, hard to understand but he does say them.

kelvingreen
30th December 2007, 12:31 PM
If i wanted to buy a Sonic, which one should i download?. I only want to download one for now, because i only have wii points for 1 until i buy more!.

So what's the definitive Sonic that i have to have?
Sonic 2, without a doubt, although liars and thieves will try to tell you that Sonic & Knuckles is best. They lie. ;)

SegaFan
30th December 2007, 12:50 PM
If i wanted to buy a Sonic, which one should i download?. I only want to download one for now, because i only have wii points for 1 until i buy more!.I've said this many times before and can't say it enough. Don't download Sonic, get Sonic Mega Collection instead, it's much cheaper and runs in 60Hz.

Oh, and welcome to VC-Forums. :D

iNma
30th December 2007, 04:11 PM
Sonic 2, without a doubt, although liars and thieves will try to tell you that Sonic & Knuckles is best. They lie. ;)

Amen. Unless I'm totally mistaken thus topic came up a few months ago ANC that was my own opinion. And Sonic pretty much lost his mojo after the MD games all the way to the GBA games, which were actually fantastic. Sonic 2 though, is the Sega gospel.

Ouenben
30th December 2007, 04:12 PM
Just get every sonic platformer that comes out :D

Tell me.
Do you prefer the 2D Sonic games to the 2D Mario games? If so that's a little bearable (Although I still think your nuts) as the 2D sonics were of great quality.
But when it comes to 3D Sonic falls flat on it's ****. Personally I loved Sonic adventure despite it's 1000 flaws, I'd say Sonic truly started going downhill about the time shadow was introduced. God I hate him.

Ouenben
30th December 2007, 04:13 PM
And I don't know why everyone loves sonic 2 the most. It's levels are quite boring IMO and the music is good but not amazing.

Sonic 3 + Knuckles (AKA the true sonic 3) kicks sonic 2's ass any day

jackaroo
30th December 2007, 05:22 PM
Tell me.
Do you prefer the 2D Sonic games to the 2D Mario games? If so that's a little bearable (Although I still think your nuts) as the 2D sonics were of great quality.
But when it comes to 3D Sonic falls flat on it's ****. Personally I loved Sonic adventure despite it's 1000 flaws, I'd say Sonic truly started going downhill about the time shadow was introduced. God I hate him.

And I don't know why everyone loves sonic 2 the most. It's levels are quite boring IMO and the music is good but not amazing.

Sonic 3 + Knuckles (AKA the true sonic 3) kicks sonic 2's ass any day

Your just trying to hurt me :cry:. First your mean to shadow (My favourite character :p) then your mean to Sonic 2 (My favourite game):cry:. And yeah i do prefer the 2D sonic's to 2D Mario's. I greatly prefer them. And i still prefer 3D Sonic's. Ive grown up with sonic though and i will always prefer him to mario. I do like mario when it comes to mario alone....but when it comes to Sonic & Mario i hate mario :lol:.
And what do you mean you think im nuts. Im perfectly normal *Starts running round neighbourhood barking like a dog*.

EDIT : Also so you know there is an edit button, bottem corner of your post. Just so you know.

The shoemaker
30th December 2007, 08:25 PM
Out of the 5 sonic games I've played, sonic 2 is the best. I want to get sonic 3 but it just seams like it wont live up to number 2

kelvingreen
30th December 2007, 09:24 PM
Out of the 5 sonic games I've played, sonic 2 is the best. I want to get sonic 3 but it just seams like it wont live up to number 2
Sonic 2 improves on the original, Sonic 3 adds to 2, but doesn't really improve on it.

Ralph.vr
31st December 2007, 10:43 AM
Sonic is better than Mario. That's just how it is. But my favorite Sonic game must be Sonic adventure 2 the battle for the gamecube. That was such an awesome game. :cool:

ICEknight
31st December 2007, 11:04 AM
Sonic is better than Mario. That's just how it is. But my favorite Sonic game must be Sonic adventure 2 the battle for the gamecube. That was such an awesome game. :cool:
Saying that Sonic is better than Mario because of SA2 is wrong in so many aspects.

I'm secretly hoping your post was filled with sarcasm.

Ouenben
5th January 2008, 02:51 AM
Saying that Sonic is better than Mario because of SA2 is wrong in so many aspects.

I'm secretly hoping your post was filled with sarcasm.

Agreed.
I can *kind of, almost* bear with someone preferring Sonic 2 or sonic 3 & knuckles to one of the Mario bros games. As those games were also of great quality. But anyone who prefers 3D Sonic games to the Amazing 3D Mario games (Even sunshine) is absolutely insane :lolo-spin:

How often do you see glitchy deaths, terrible cameras, running segments where you can actually put the controller down for a few minutes etc?

I liked Sonic adventure, it was awesome (Despite its many flaws) but after that and since the introduction of Shadow the ****hog I feel sonic has officially died.

Atlantis1982
5th January 2008, 02:34 PM
Having the trilogy of Sonic games, I will say the third is the best one overall.

jackaroo
5th January 2008, 06:25 PM
Agreed.
I can *kind of, almost* bear with someone preferring Sonic 2 or sonic 3 & knuckles to one of the Mario bros games. As those games were also of great quality. But anyone who prefers 3D Sonic games to the Amazing 3D Mario games (Even sunshine) is absolutely insane :lolo-spin:

How often do you see glitchy deaths, terrible cameras, running segments where you can actually put the controller down for a few minutes etc?

I liked Sonic adventure, it was awesome (Despite its many flaws) but after that and since the introduction of Shadow the ****hog I feel sonic has officially died.

Racist :lol: oj. But i just dont really enjoy many 3D mario games or 2D mario games as much as sonic games. I only truly enjoyed SM64 but didnt prefer it over SA2. Havent played galaxy yet. But even if i did I would still prefer Sonic though :p. *prepares for the extreme bashing which is sure to come*.

Shortay
6th January 2008, 01:48 AM
Racist :lol: oj. But i just dont really enjoy many 3D mario games or 2D mario games as much as sonic games. I only truly enjoyed SM64 but didnt prefer it over SA2. Havent played galaxy yet. But even if i did I would still prefer Sonic though :p. *prepares for the extreme bashing which is sure to come*.

You'd better be prepared jack, you're goin' down :cool:

jackaroo
6th January 2008, 02:47 AM
You'd better be prepared jack, you're goin' down :cool:

*Puts on plastic goggles* Im ready!

The shoemaker
6th January 2008, 05:16 AM
Plastic goggles! You'll need more than that to survive this forums rage.

Ouenben
6th January 2008, 01:19 PM
Racist :lol: oj. But i just dont really enjoy many 3D mario games or 2D mario games as much as sonic games. I only truly enjoyed SM64 but didnt prefer it over SA2. Havent played galaxy yet. But even if i did I would still prefer Sonic though :p. *prepares for the extreme bashing which is sure to come*.

you'll be dissapointed with Galaxy. Far too few (read: pretty much none) random deaths due to glitches, a good camera, superb controls and no stupid and incredibly boring knuckles treasure hunts. :p

It's like the complete opposite of SA2.... Y'know being a GOOD game and all :p


Redeem yourself and tell us you hate the newest 3D sonic. The one with shadow and silver in and is completely rubbish?

jackaroo
6th January 2008, 01:38 PM
you'll be dissapointed with Galaxy. Far too few (read: pretty much none) random deaths due to glitches, a good camera, superb controls and no stupid and incredibly boring knuckles treasure hunts. :p

It's like the complete opposite of SA2.... Y'know being a GOOD game and all :p


Redeem yourself and tell us you hate the newest 3D sonic. The one with shadow and silver in and is completely rubbish?

Sorry..............but em..........i like that one an all :p. At first i didnt and i dont like the load times no matter what. BUT me and my friend enjoy it. Once people actually get past that sprint bit on wave ocean the game is actually good. Its just load times that suck.

Also i didnt find knuckles' treasure hunts that boring in SA2. Also before you ask. Yes i liked Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic Riders, Secret Rings, Sonic Adventure one, Meh to sonic heroes & Meh to sonic shuffle. I think thats most of the 3D ones. Also i like Sonic 3D Blast/Flickies' Island BUT only the saturn version. I used to like the MD version but after playing the saturn the MD version sucks.

Now leave me alone. I like blue hedgehogs more than fat a** plumbers. Uh-oh i overdid it again didnt I. Please dont hurt me :cry:

SegaFan
6th January 2008, 03:27 PM
you'll be dissapointed with Galaxy. Far too few (read: pretty much none) random deaths due to glitches, a good camera, superb controls and no stupid and incredibly boring knuckles treasure hunts. :razz:

It's like the complete opposite of SA2.... Y'know being a GOOD game and all
Actually Galaxy owes SA2 a lot. After all it was Sonic Adventure 2 that was first to do the whole gravity changing thing, and the spherical levels as well, six years before Galaxy. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYvp5XDM3s

jackaroo
6th January 2008, 03:44 PM
Actually Galaxy owes SA2 a lot. After all it was Sonic Adventure 2 that was first to do the whole gravity changing thing, and the spherical levels as well, six years before Galaxy. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYvp5XDM3s

Take that mario fans! I forgot about that level.

Ouenben
7th January 2008, 05:46 PM
Actually Galaxy owes SA2 a lot. After all it was Sonic Adventure 2 that was first to do the whole gravity changing thing, and the spherical levels as well, six years before Galaxy. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYvp5XDM3s

You are correct (Although It wouldnt suprise me if this was in an earlier game on PSX/N64/Saturn. Mind you they used a similar idea for that 3D sonic game on Saturn didnt they?)

But I wasn't saying who had this idea or that idea first I was just saying about the terrible flaws of 3D Sonic games (E.g. SA2, STH06, Sonic heroes)

Im not convinced SA2 had spherical planets first but even if they did at least Super mario galaxy managed to get it right :p (Moving around on those things in SA2 was a nightmare)

Ouenben
7th January 2008, 05:51 PM
Sorry..............but em..........i like that one an all :p. At first i didnt and i dont like the load times no matter what. BUT me and my friend enjoy it. Once people actually get past that sprint bit on wave ocean the game is actually good. Its just load times that suck.

Also i didnt find knuckles' treasure hunts that boring in SA2. Also before you ask. Yes i liked Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic Riders, Secret Rings, Sonic Adventure one, Meh to sonic heroes & Meh to sonic shuffle. I think thats most of the 3D ones. Also i like Sonic 3D Blast/Flickies' Island BUT only the saturn version. I used to like the MD version but after playing the saturn the MD version sucks.

Now leave me alone. I like blue hedgehogs more than fat a** plumbers. Uh-oh i overdid it again didnt I. Please dont hurt me :cry:

Im not telling you you have to like anyone and as far as characters go i probably would have preferred sonic before they made him all "extreme" he was better without a voice and without the 3rd Dimension IMO.

I've not tried secret rings, how is it?
I liked SA. my favourite 3D sonic game by far but it's still no match for Mario 64 IMO.

Sonic adventure 2 was a dissapointment
Shadow was really terrible
Sonic heroes was rubbish
Sonic The hedghog 06 was one of the worst games I've ever played


Was Sonic shuffle not a rip off of Mario party? Looked pointless.
Sonic 3D/blast was boring IMO nothing to do with what sonic was about either. the only good thing was the Special stages which were a flat version of Sonic 2s half pipes.

At least we can love the 2D sonics togetherr.
Sonic 3 & knuckes <3

jackaroo
7th January 2008, 06:17 PM
Im not telling you you have to like anyone and as far as characters go i probably would have preferred sonic before they made him all "extreme" he was better without a voice and without the 3rd Dimension IMO.

I've not tried secret rings, how is it?
I liked SA. my favourite 3D sonic game by far but it's still no match for Mario 64 IMO.

Sonic adventure 2 was a dissapointment
Shadow was really terrible
Sonic heroes was rubbish
Sonic The hedghog 06 was one of the worst games I've ever played


Was Sonic shuffle not a rip off of Mario party? Looked pointless.
Sonic 3D/blast was boring IMO nothing to do with what sonic was about either. the only good thing was the Special stages which were a flat version of Sonic 2s half pipes.

At least we can love the 2D sonics togetherr.
Sonic 3 & knuckes <3

Sonic Shuffle is a Mario Party rip and i cant believe im about to say this but........id rather play Mario Party than that. I never even played a minigame in Sonic Shuffle. Load terms were just unbearable and gameplay was slow.

And for 3D Blast. Did you play the MD Version or Saturn Version. The MD version is good first time round IMO but then it gets old. But the saturn version just feels great. Gameplay is no different. But for some reason the graphics make it feel so much more better. It just makes the game so much more playable. And im not one for graphics. But they just suit the game so much more on saturn.
Still im tired of arguing. This was a Best Sonic topic and its turned into a Sonic VS Mario topic lol.

SegaFan
7th January 2008, 11:55 PM
You are correct (Although It wouldnt suprise me if this was in an earlier game on PSX/N64/Saturn. Mind you they used a similar idea for that 3D sonic game on Saturn didnt they?)

But I wasn't saying who had this idea or that idea first I was just saying about the terrible flaws of 3D Sonic games (E.g. SA2, STH06, Sonic heroes)

Im not convinced SA2 had spherical planets first but even if they did at least Super mario galaxy managed to get it right :razz: (Moving around on those things in SA2 was a nightmare
I don't know any other game that did it before but if you can point out one then feel free. I don't know anything like that on Saturn. It's not just the spherical levels either, a lot of ideas from Sonic's levels (the gravity changing parts) made it into Galaxy, though Nintendo could have come up with the ideas independently.

The developers of Ratchet and Clank claimed that the spherical levels were their idea. I don't know when they were made, I've never played those games so I have no idea. Shigeru Miyamoto said in an interview that he'd never heard of it.

Honestly though, Mario Galaxy does it better than in Sonic Adventure 2, I can't argue with that. But the gravity levels were only a small part of SA2. SA2 was kind of experimental with lots of new gameplay ideas that had never been done before. They are both great games for different reasons, it's hard to choose between SA2 and Galaxy overall.

Ouenben
8th January 2008, 12:05 AM
I don't know any other game that did it before but if you can point out one then feel free. I don't know anything like that on Saturn. It's not just the spherical levels either, a lot of ideas from Sonic's levels (the gravity changing parts) made it into Galaxy, though Nintendo could have come up with the ideas independently.

The developers of Ratchet and Clank claimed that the spherical levels were their idea. I don't know when they were made, I've never played those games so I have no idea. Shigeru Miyamoto said in an interview that he'd never heard of it.

Honestly though, Mario Galaxy does it better than in Sonic Adventure 2, I can't argue with that. But the gravity levels were only a small part of SA2. SA2 was kind of experimental with lots of new gameplay ideas that had never been done before. They are both great games for different reasons, it's hard to choose between SA2 and Galaxy overall.

Ratchet and clank was after SA2 (well the one with spherical worlds anyway)

For you maybe but not for many other people. SA2 seems to be a hit or miss game with people. Personally with me it's a miss.
I hated the robot missions as eggman/tails
Seriously Galaxy kicks SA2's ass any day. #2 on Gamerankings I think. Nintendo out did themselves.

Fave sonic : Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

sonic 2 is in no way better. Not one single way

Graphics, gameplay, levels, size, replay, feartures
It's all sonic 3 & knuckles

The shoemaker
8th January 2008, 04:18 AM
Secret rings was really good. It was fun to play the levels beat your score and unlock stuff. The multiplayer thing was cool too, it was like a little mario party. And the music kicked ass. And I'd probably prefer sonic over mario. Sonic is cooler, but I prefer mario games over sonic

Shortay
8th January 2008, 08:13 PM
Take that mario fans! I forgot about that level.

Pfft, and you call yourself a Sonic fan :p

Sektor
8th January 2008, 11:48 PM
Sonic is adverage to me, nothing special

Shortay
12th January 2008, 12:35 AM
Sonic is adverage to me, nothing special

You're the first person I've ever heard that agrees with me on Sonic's averageness.

ICEknight
12th January 2008, 01:21 AM
Was Sonic shuffle not a rip off of Mario party?
Well, it was made by the same company (Hudson)

ICEknight
12th January 2008, 01:25 AM
You're the first person I've ever heard that agrees with me on Sonic's averageness.
Well, it's true. Today, he's comparable to so many other random mascots with tons of average games in their backs.

Except for Sonic Rush and... Okay, Sonic Rush.

Dark Oak
7th September 2008, 07:18 PM
There all brilliant but i would have to say Sonic & Knuckles.

Trapster
7th September 2008, 08:40 PM
I think I have to say Sonic 3 & Sonic & Knuckles. Sonic 3 was the first Sonic game I ever played. Many years ago.

But Sonic 2 is also good. That and Sonic & Knuckles in 1 gamepak makes a longer game, though.

Kanti 3000
14th September 2008, 01:19 AM
I'm gonna have to say Shadow the hedgehog is the best Sonic game of all time. Seriously its like sonic but EXTREME!!!



Okay in all seriousness I have to cast my vote for the original Sonic. Sure Sonic 2 is technicaly better, but I just have so many fond memories of the first Sonic. Unfortunately its all downhill after Sonic 2.

Tony
16th September 2008, 01:04 AM
I loved all of the 2d Sonics, but I would easily pick Sonic 2

Kobayashi
26th October 2008, 03:10 PM
Sonic 1 is the best Sonic game ever.

In second place, Sonic 2.

Ps: both genesis version

digiki
26th October 2008, 04:24 PM
Sonic 2 was the best, it was pretty good.

Sonic 3 wasn't terrible and you could save.

Sonic 3D Blast was passable, but kinda boring.

Sonic and Knuckles had boring, really long levels and you couldn't even save.

Sonic the Hedgehog ( Gen.) was awful, one of the worst games I've ever played.

I haven't played much of the 3D games, but Adventure might be my fave because even though its glitchy and not very polished it was fairly fun, and I think it could've been great it was given the attention the 3D Mario games get. ( Not as good as Mario of course, but great)

Ouenben
26th October 2008, 06:10 PM
Sonic 3 & knuckles by a landslide.

Longest sonic game of the original bunch.
Super Sonic, knuckles, tails Hyper sonic, knuckles!
Storyline/mini cutscenes explaining events and how you get from level to level.
Boss at end of every level.
Improved graphics
Superb music
Save feature
Fun multiplayer (although Sonic 2's is better)
Brilliant levels such as hydrocity, casino night, launch base zone, lava reef, Sky sanctuary, death egg.



I wonder if Sonic 3 & knuckles would be the fan favourite instead of two if it had been released as one game as originally intended.
I just find it so much better than Sonic 1 & 2 in every way. Although I do love Sonic 1 and 2 a lot just not as much.

RetroNL
26th October 2008, 09:14 PM
Definetly Sonic 3 on genesis (megadrive) !

Ouenben
26th October 2008, 09:43 PM
Definetly Sonic 3 on genesis (megadrive) !

Sonic and knuckles locked on I hope ;)

Sonic 3 on it's own isn't particularly amazing (still a good game though)

Mr. Cheez
27th October 2008, 03:49 AM
Best Sonic? I'd say Sonic 2, by far. My second choice I guess would be Sonic Advance. That one was pretty good. The first Sonic was alright, but not spectacular. That's all I got, though; those were the only Sonic games I played so far. :)

evildevil97
27th October 2008, 05:43 AM
My favourite Sonic isn't on VC (yet). Sonic Chaos!

Kurachi
30th October 2008, 06:05 PM
sonic 3 imo, without knuckles, but also with knuckles
i had most fun with it, i only always wished for 1 thing, but thats just a dream :p
thats you also could choose knuckles + tails
anyway, its the best sonic i've played
i just wont buy on VC since i have sonic mega collection (gamecube), which has more sonic games, including sonic 1, 2 and 3, and can unlock sonic 2 with knuckles and sonic 3 with knuckles :D

sdf368
7th December 2008, 11:18 AM
Mine is Sonic 2 as well..

http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-dntw.html

Mickeymac
7th December 2008, 07:50 PM
For me it's a tie between Sonic CD and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Refa
7th December 2008, 11:49 PM
For me it's a tie between Sonic CD and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Sonic CD for the win for me! :p

Mickeymac
8th December 2008, 07:35 AM
Sonic CD for the win for me! :p

Yeah, I would've just stuck with Sonic CD, but I played Sonic 3 & Knuckles today, and it was soooo much fun!

slangman
8th December 2008, 02:00 PM
Well for me it's Sonic the Hedgehog 2 on the Mega Drive, although Sonic 3 comes close. Now if only Sonic CD came out?