Advance Wars: Days of Ruin

[Pegasus]

Just from the little bits of info about the game it sure sounds like a must-have for strategy fans. After all, it's still Advance Wars, merely in a slightly altered shell. I won't mind having a more darker overtone to the game. Not that I didn't mind some of the cutesy stuff in previous outings, but it's good that the series is getting a face-lift. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. ;)

Here's what IGN posted (http://ds.ign.com/articles/827/827344p1.html) about the game so far.

...Advance Wars will put huge focus on online play over the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service. Not only will you be able to fight against other players via the internet, you'll be able to voice chat while doing so. And maps that you create in the editor? As long as you've proven that you can win the challenge, you can send your creations to the Nintendo server for other people to download.

Booyah! =D

Gameplay trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26459.html?type=flv)

[PowerLegend]

*jumps out the window in shock* Just... unbelieveable.

Easily my most wanted game of January. Looking forward to it. A WHOLE lot.

[Serge.EXE]

Oh man, this is going to be amazing. I mean, Advance Wars is awesome by itself. But this thing is gonna have WiFi with VoIP DURING the actual matches, not to mention the new graphics look really snazzy. This is a definite buy.

[Taint Smack]

"Voice chat?" I've never heard of that. Is this new?

[Pegasus]

Pokemon and Planet Puzzle League have it already, but only when playing with friends. I figure it'll be the same here. That won't bother me, though. In the end, I just care that the franchise is finally going online.

[jackaroo]

I might get this since i do like strategy games but there is one problem. I suck at them. I swear Advance Wars Dual Strike becomes impossible during some of the later stages of the story.

[Serge.EXE]

I might get this since i do like strategy games but there is one problem. I suck at them. I swear Advance Wars Dual Strike becomes impossible during some of the later stages of the story.

While it is true that it gets tough later on, it's by no means impossible. Maybe in Hard Campaign :p (which I am currently playing through as the game is completely addicting.)

I actually got Dual Strike awhile ago, when it was first released. I beat normal Campaign, did a few extra things, then more or less hardly touched the Hard Campaign until now, because of other games. Coming back to it is so good though, the game is still one of the finest for the DS

[Pegasus]

A bit more info (http://ds.ign.com/articles/842/842329p1.html) about the game. Its release is only about a month away, too. =)

[Serge.EXE]

Argh, can't wait for this game. It seems like another breath of fresh-air for the DS. A good online strategy game is what the system needs.

Oh man, the good games are going to KILL my battery.

[nintendoduffin]

I'm really looking forward to this one although to be perfectly honest I couldn't care less about online play.

[Pegasus]

Got the game today. I actually like the changes that have been made, at least the ones I've come across so far.

I don't quite understand why some reviewers complain about the lack of shop in this new version. You'll just get all the maps from the get-go without having to "buy" them. As I added them all together the lump sum still comes up to 200-250 maps (including single-player campaign). That's certainly plenty in my book.

I never did quite get the point of Dual Strike's Survival and Combat mode. Odd game modes that have been thankfully left out in DoR.

I don't mind the reduced CO powers. DS's CO tag combo always seemed a bit too overbearing, as it is. A greater necessity for more strategic thinking is a plus in my book.

Only tried one WiFi match, in which I got my ass handed to me because I kind of mis-managed at some point. Oh well. I doubt I will play many random matches. Online play against pals is what it's all about. ;)

[dk_xcalibur]

I'm thinking about this or "No More Heroes" or "Prof. Layton". I have a Gamestop giftcard coming my way in February. It's a tough choice for me. I've only seen good reviews for NMH and AW but I've played the demos for the PL series and thought they were awesome. I preordered SSBB but......

[Pegasus]

Get all three! =P Personally, I'm still sitting on the fence as far as No More Heroes is concerned. Professor Layton, on the other hand, is definitely a title that very much appeals to me.

[Jazzem]

I got this today. Really like it :D

360-901-833-689 For my friend code.

[Serge.EXE]

Next time I head for home (at school currently), I'm going to pick this up and have a blast I believe.

I like to see that CO powers have been downgraded, and the new gameplay stuff makes it seem that Strategy is much more valuable then it was in the previous games. Can't wait!

[Pegasus]

The CO powers don't even come into play in the single-player campaign until about the half-way point. I'm just on mission 15 and they were barely introduced. I probably won't get a real feel for them until a few more missions in.

Anyways, the game is another great in the series. As said, I welcome the changes. Will post my FC later.

P.S. Carriers with seaplanes are awesome! Once built both seaplanes can launch and attack in the same turn. Downsides: carrier cannot move beforehand in that same turn; seaplanes have to refuel more frequently than other aircraft.

[Shortay]

I got this today, but having not played any other Advance Wars games I am finding it slightly confusing and a bit dull. It hasn't "dazzled" me yet, hopefully it will later... I have only played the first tutorial mission though.

[Serge.EXE]

I got this today, but having not played any other Advance Wars games I am finding it slightly confusing and a bit dull. It hasn't "dazzled" me yet, hopefully it will later... I have only played the first tutorial mission though.

Give it a bit of time. I heard that the storyline is quite drawing, and the strategy elements and new balancing in the game should be great for any strategy fan.

[Pegasus]

There certainly isn't much to the first mission. Once the available arsenal of units expands you should have a better picture of the game as a whole.

The story sure is much more involving than in past efforts. It has become more similar to the Fire Emblem series, as far as depth is concerned, but it still may have a bit to go to get on the same level as FE.

[TwinCross]

I got this today, and although I've only done the first 4 missions so far, I think it's great. The new setting and story/art style really puts some life back into the series!

[Serge.EXE]

Indeed, I just got it last night, and it's awesome. The new units rock, especially the Dusters. Can't wait to start taking this Online.

I haven't gotten my Friend Code yet, but when I do I'll post it here, and we'll all play Online together.

[Sektor]

I am going to get round to getting this in the end as i do like AW, i am trying to find it for cheap somewhere...

[The shoemaker]

I still don't understand what kind of game this is

[dk_xcalibur]

I still don't understand what kind of game this is

A turn based strategey game. Each person's turn consist of moving one unit at a time until they are finished moving the units that they want to. There's more to it but that's the basics.

[The shoemaker]

Bumped

I was at the mall today looking for shorts, and I just stopped at EB games (gamestop) for a quick sec to find a used advance wars Days Of Ruin for only $20!. After hearing such good things about the game I couldn't resist.

Good thing it's awesome. I've only tried the campaign mode so far, and it's lots of fun. the story is decent, and the game play is my kind of.....play. I was surprised at how hard the hard is, I'm on mission four and I'm having trouble. I have a lot of fun figuring out my moves. Thinking of how strong my men are, how do they compare to the enemies, If I move, where's a spot they can't get me, but i can get them....etc. It's just crazy. Along with thinking of those elements, you also have to think of your surroundings, if there are woods, mountains or even roads near by, they all effect the game. Also the music is awesome, it really gets you focused on the battle.

Oh and then i found out free play has 100 levels to chose from, along with the ability to make your own maps, that's sweet. and apparently I can even exchange maps online with other people. Also i think i can battle online too.

There was also Advance wars: Duel Strike for $15, but I thought this one would be better.

EDIT: The best thing about buying this used game is, that it was barely used. The only thing the other guy did with it was beat the first mission.

[dk_xcalibur]

Wow, good buy! I got my copy of Layton used for only $20. I wish I could stumble upon AW for $20 that would be a no brainer for me. I actually heard that the first AW for the DS was better then the newest one but I think the newest one has Wi-Fi and the older one doesn't.

I thought you weren't buying games because you're saving for a PS3;)

[The shoemaker]

Wow, good buy! I got my copy of Layton used for only $20. I wish I could stumble upon AW for $20 that would be a no brainer for me. I actually heard that the first AW for the DS was better then the newest one but I think the newest one has Wi-Fi and the older one doesn't.

I thought you weren't buying games because you're saving for a PS3;)


well who could resist a $20 game ;)

But now i'm saving. I just bought Mario kart and Advance wars to help me through the months of not buying games.

I still got $20 left though. Now the intense never buying lunch, never looking at the wii shop channel, avoiding EB Games at all cost, adventure begins.

[dk_xcalibur]

well who could resist a $20 game ;)

But now i'm saving. I just bought Mario kart and Advance wars to help me through the months of not buying games.

I still got $20 left though. Now the intense never buying lunch, never looking at the wii shop channel, avoiding EB Games at all cost, adventure begins.

Good luck:p

[Mickeymac]

I don't know if I should get Days of Ruin or not. I've never played the series before, and I've only played a couple of strategy games. I like the idea of playing online, but I don't like it when games get too serious. Should I start with Days of Ruin, or should I go for one of the others?

Can you play Multiplauer between AW1 and AW2? Just asking.

[Slayerking45]

I don't know if I should get Days of Ruin or not. I've never played the series before, and I've only played a couple of strategy games. I like the idea of playing online, but I don't like it when games get too serious. Should I start with Days of Ruin, or should I go for one of the others?

Can you play Multiplauer between AW1 and AW2? Just asking.

The online is great but the campaign can get extremely diffuclt am stuck on chapter 14 and i cant find a decent guide to tell me wht to do also it has a map editor which is fun to play with and you can start with this one first if you want to be becasuse its a brand new story its not a sequel to the others

[Mickeymac]

Thanks for the info, I like the idea of a Map Editor, even though I rarely get much use out of them, but maybe I will with this one, who knows?

My main concern, though, is the story. How dark does it get? What attracted me to it in the first place was that I heard Battalion Wars was part of the Advanced wars series, and I loved Battalion Wars in large part because of it's funny, mostly light-hearted story. I don't play very many strategy games, as I mentioned. In fact, I usually avoid anything that relies heavily on Strategy, albeit I did think that Disgea and FF Tactics looked pretty cool. I been getting into strategy games more and more lately, but I think I really need something to give me that extra push over the edge, and I figured an Advanced Wars game would be it.

I like all the features mentioned for Days of Ruin, but if the story's too serious, I don't think it'll be able to hold my attention for very long. So I reiterate, how serious is the story of Advanced Wars: Days of Ruin?

[Slayerking45]

Thanks for the info, I like the idea of a Map Editor, even though I rarely get much use out of them, but maybe I will with this one, who knows?

My main concern, though, is the story. How dark does it get? What attracted me to it in the first place was that I heard Battalion Wars was part of the Advanced wars series, and I loved Battalion Wars in large part because of it's funny, mostly light-hearted story. I don't play very many strategy games, as I mentioned. In fact, I usually avoid anything that relies heavily on Strategy, albeit I did think that Disgea and FF Tactics looked pretty cool. I been getting into strategy games more and more lately, but I think I really need something to give me that extra push over the edge, and I figured an Advanced Wars game would be it.

I like all the features mentioned for Days of Ruin, but if the story's too serious, I don't think it'll be able to hold my attention for very long. So I reiterate, how serious is the story of Advanced Wars: Days of Ruin?

The story isnt tht serious its just about war after meteors hit the earth and some people survive and the remaining people basically go to war for supplies and land its a pretty good story its not to dark but theres not a lot of humor ether but i enjoyed the story but i havent beaten it yet because some missions are very hard and sometimes you need to have a lot of strategy and luck to win still i think this is the best in the series

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

My question is the same as Mick's, but for a different reason. I'll probably only enjoy it if it has a serious story. I like my SRPGs to be serious. :)

[Pegasus]

Eh? There are no RPG elements in this game, whatsoever. It's all strategy, through and through.

[Mickeymac]

The story isnt tht serious its just about war after meteors hit the earth and some people survive and the remaining people basically go to war for supplies and land its a pretty good story its not to dark but theres not a lot of humor ether but i enjoyed the story but i havent beaten it yet because some missions are very hard and sometimes you need to have a lot of strategy and luck to win still i think this is the best in the series

Commas man, Commas! I read your post out loud, and I thought I was going to pass out!

Punctuation aside, I'm grateful for your response, and I'll be picking this up as soon as I have some cash...and near a mall, I'm not making the mistake of riding my bike through the Thruway again. Thank G-D somebody I knew could had a car with a trunk big enough to fit a bike in it, or I'd have been stranded.

One last question: Does DoR have Download play? Because I think I'd like to play it with my brother, and perhaps get him into strategy games.

Actually, now that I think about it, nobody answered my question on whether AW1 and AW2 were compatible in verses mode. I'd imagine not, but it would be pretty cool if it did, as well as give me an extra reason to play both.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Eh? There are no RPG elements in this game, whatsoever. It's all strategy, through and through.

Even better, but even more demanding of a serious plot/characterization/style.

[The shoemaker]

The story is serious, yet un serious. it's more serious than un serious, but somehow it goes both ways. It's more exciting than anything. Oh DOR is the only advance wars with online, so I doubt you could play online with the other ones. And yes the campaign does get very challenging. There's one side quest I've been stuck on for quite some time now, there's a certain way to start each battle, and finding that start is half the victory. As each map is different, and there's certain spots where you just get bombarded.

Such as the one I'm on right now, it's flat land, with a island in the middle. So first one to the island has the upper hand. But the hard part is that your playing in fog, so in this battle you can't see your enemies unless they're out of the fog. But the more cities you have, equals more places you can see. So this makes it challenging, because if the opposite team has rockets and anti tanks, and your near one of their cities, you get pummeled. They then make various defensive teams, so whenever you try to make it around, you'll get stopped but some crazy team. quite hard. it all depends on how you use your money, and what kind of start you get.

As for the stage builder, I find it perfectly fun just making unique stages, I usually make them too unique that the computers beat me though......

[Mickeymac]

Okay, I dropped by the store and got it. I'll admit, I didn't intend on getting it, but the price of Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Swords still hasn't gone down, plus I was planning on only getting a Wii Point card, but it sounded so good, and it was right there, so I got it.

Just one question though, I was planning on down loading Shining Force, should I still get that, now that I have this?

Edit: Wow, I just realized Shoemaker is 13! I thought he was way older than that. Smart kid.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Just one question though, I was planning on down loading Shining Force, should I still get that, now that I have this?

YES! Shining Force is a great old-school tactical-RPG. Totally different experience. One of the best games currently on the VC, too.

[Mickeymac]

YES! Shining Force is a great old-school tactical-RPG. Totally different experience. One of the best games currently on the VC, too.

Thanks, I needed that, it looked really good but I still couldn't decide. You seem to know about good RPGs, so I'll ask my other question: Should I get Beyond Oasis or Breath of Fire II? It's the reason, I asked my other question, since I don't know which 2 of the 3 to get( 1 down, 1 more to go).

Edit: Don't worry, I'll get back on topic once I get a chance to play the game. I just needed to get some stuff out of the way first.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Thanks, I needed that, it looked really good but I still couldn't decide. You seem to know about good RPGs, so I'll ask my other question: Should I get Beyond Oasis or Breath of Fire II? It's the reason, I asked my other question, since I don't know which 2 of the 3 to get( 1 down, 1 more to go).

Slowly veering off topic, but of those two I'd recommend Breath of Fire II. Beyond Oasis doesn't do it for me. Breath of Fire II is not as good as the first one (one Yogurt's opinion--some people think it's better), but it shares many of the same positive aspects as the original, so it gets a thumbs up from me.

[Mickeymac]

Okay, I finally got some time in with the game, and I gotta say, I don't think I knew what I was getting into. Don't get me wrong, I'd say it's good, but it's definitely harder and more complicated than I expected. It's kind of a rough transition, since the only turn-based strategy games I've played were a demo of R-Type: Command( which got some nasty reviews for being simpler than your usual strategy outing) and Shining Force, which are completely different from it. I assumed that strategy RPGs were a step up from standard strategy games, but in fact they're on a whole different ladder, and Days of Ruin is several rungs above RT: Command.

I suppose in retrospect I should have gone with the original, but then again, would that have been any better? That's not to say it's bad, it's just punishing, more so than any other game I've played. It'll take some getting used to, I'm sure, and I can't say I haven't enjoyed myself when I win, it's just that if I make one wrong move, I'm f****d, and there's no easy way to reset it like in Shining Force, so I have to see my failure to the end. I suppose that I'll just have to learn to get friendly with mister power button, or learn to fight harder.

All in all, my heart aches for R-Type: Command, which is similar in many ways, yet simpler and less punishing( and more restricted in the capabilities of each unit type) - a true strategy game for noobs- and I'll have to learn to adapt and enjoy it. I just hope I can still enjoy RTC, because I honestly have only played a demo that left me begging for more( which inevitably led to this delve in this previously hated genre), and I've been putting it off until the price went down.

Anywho, I'll keep on playing for the next few days, and I'll let you know if my opinions of it start to improve.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Keep us posted, because I'm interested. Have you played any Fire Emblem games? If so, I'd be interested in learning how they compare on the punishing difficulty scale.

[Mickeymac]

Keep us posted, because I'm interested. Have you played any Fire Emblem games? If so, I'd be interested in learning how they compare on the punishing difficulty scale.

My brother rented the Gamecube one, and it didn't look so hard, at least not the first chapter. But then again, my brother kicks my *** at chess all the time, so I think he's better with strategy than I am.

Speaking of my bro, I wish he'd play two player with me, since it may be a little easier than the computer, but I don't think he's interested in playing with me period.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, I know what you mean about the story - it is dark, but it doesn't always take itself seriously, there is quite a bit of humor, just not laugh-out-loud humor.

And the music in the game is terrible!

[Mickeymac]

Okay, I played more of the campaign, which I previously had given up on because I figured Free Battle would be more fun, and I'm starting to like it a lot more. After that astonishing comeback on the Trial Map, I'd say it's not quite as unforgiving as I previously mentioned, at least when you're the only one with a factory on hand to produce produce new units. However, playing Free Battle on a tiny, mountainous map, with only a half-arsed idea of what you're doing or how the game works, and both sides having access to several factories with which deadly mechanical behemoths can be spawned, the game will seem quite unforgiving.

[Slayerking45]

Okay, I played more of the campaign, which I previously had given up on because I figured Free Battle would be more fun, and I'm starting to like it a lot more. After that astonishing comeback on the Trial Map, I'd say it's not quite as unforgiving as I previously mentioned, at least when you're the only one with a factory on hand to produce produce new units. However, playing Free Battle on a tiny, mountainous map, with only a half-arsed idea of what you're doing or how the game works, and both sides having access to several factories with which deadly mechanical behemoths can be spawned, the game will seem quite unforgiving.

some missions in campaign can be a pain and frustrating am on chapter 14 and dang am stuck again this game frustrates me alot i always try but i fail and its weird how the missions can be super easy then go to super hard but its still a great game

[The shoemaker]

[quote=Mickeymac;73632]Okay, I finally got some time in with the game, and I gotta say, I don't think I knew what I was getting into. Don't get me wrong, I'd say it's good, but it's definitely harder and more complicated than I expected. It's kind of a rough transition, since the only turn-based strategy games I've played were a demo of R-Type: Command( which got some nasty reviews for being simpler than your usual strategy outing) and Shining Force, which are completely different from it. I assumed that strategy RPGs were a step up from standard strategy games, but in fact they're on a whole different ladder, and Days of Ruin is several rungs above RT: Command.

I suppose in retrospect I should have gone with the original, but then again, would that have been any better? That's not to say it's bad, it's just punishing, more so than any other game I've played. It'll take some getting used to, I'm sure, and I can't say I haven't enjoyed myself when I win, it's just that if I make one wrong move, I'm f****d, and there's no easy way to reset it like in Shining Force, so I have to see my failure to the end. I suppose that I'll just have to learn to get friendly with mister power button, or learn to fight harder.

No need to be friend the power button. I've also had those....unforgiving moments. And when you know you have no chance of winning, or are just plain tired of going back and forth on who's winning and losing, just select the menu, and go to surrender, that way the match ends automatically.

Here's a tip for your strategy. Before making any move whatsoever, look at your enemies army. tap a enemy to see how far it can travel, and if it can attack someone in your army. this way you have a better chance on knowing where to move. But war is about sacrificing, so you should also chack how much power each enemy has, thus knowing if it could take your out in one blow, or if it will take several turns. This is a good way to block your hurt, or important men. And one last tip, before you attack, check how much damage your guy will give to the enemy. If it's a low percent, usually you wouldn't attack with that guy, but use a stronger one. Also check how much HP the enemy has. If he has low HP, there's a low chance he'll fight back, and even if he does fight back, it wont do much damage.

Oh and, get Breath of Fire ll.

[Mickeymac]

Sorry for taking so long to respond, everytime I try to collect my thoughts, I find myself playing it.

some missions in campaign can be a pain and frustrating am on chapter 14 and dang am stuck again this game frustrates me alot i always try but i fail and its weird how the missions can be super easy then go to super hard but its still a great game

I'm not too far in, but I can already see what you mean, especially with the Trial Maps.



No need to be friend the power button. I've also had those....unforgiving moments. And when you know you have no chance of winning, or are just plain tired of going back and forth on who's winning and losing, just select the menu, and go to surrender, that way the match ends automatically.

Here's a tip for your strategy. Before making any move whatsoever, look at your enemies army. tap a enemy to see how far it can travel, and if it can attack someone in your army. this way you have a better chance on knowing where to move. But war is about sacrificing, so you should also chack how much power each enemy has, thus knowing if it could take your out in one blow, or if it will take several turns. This is a good way to block your hurt, or important men. And one last tip, before you attack, check how much damage your guy will give to the enemy. If it's a low percent, usually you wouldn't attack with that guy, but use a stronger one. Also check how much HP the enemy has. If he has low HP, there's a low chance he'll fight back, and even if he does fight back, it wont do much damage.

Oh and, get Breath of Fire ll.


Thanks that wound up being a big help!

I gotta say, I really glad I got this now. It is a game built for hardcore fans, but it's still kind to the newcomers, and it definitely got me interested in the strategy genre, something I thought would never happen. Also the story, while a little too dark for my tastes, is still pretty good, and definitely better than I expected out of a strategy game. I can't stand the music though, but I did figure out how to turn it off without muting the whole game, though the battles do feel like they're missing something now. The Free Battles are pretty hard, though it might be smarter if I attempt them after the campaign mode. The Trial maps drive me nuts, but thankfully they're optional, though they are quite an addicting challenge, and if I start one, it's hard to stop trying it until I win( or until the umpteenth failure). I'm waiting to try the online component and level editor for when I'm better at the game, but I'm sure they'd be great.

Oh, and I got Breath of Fire II, and I'm loving it so far! I'd love it more if I'd remember to save more often, but still pretty damn great.



I don't have any real complaints with this game. Thanks Slayerking45 and Shoemaker for recommending it to me! And thank you Jogurt for recommending Shining Force as well, because that also turned out to be a great purchase.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

And thank you Jogurt for recommending Shining Force as well, because that also turned out to be a great purchase.

Just wait until you come across his glorious highness himself!

[Mickeymac]

Just wait until you come across his glorious highness himself!

I ran into him twice already! I haven't seen him since though. When you run into him at the end of the first Chapter, where the hell does he go? I was looking all over for him, it drove me nuts! Does he just disappear?

Also, it was a really stupid idea for me to promote my entire party at the same time. I played the same level over and over again to do it too! Then I had to level grind again so I could finally move on!

Oh and one last thing, Did that inventer guy in the second chapter ever give you that steam suit? I'm already past that, but I just want to know if I missed something or not.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

Oh and one last thing, Did that inventer guy in the second chapter ever give you that steam suit? I'm already past that, but I just want to know if I missed something or not.

You will come to a caravan city where you'll meet the guy in the steam suit and Jogurt again. To answer two of your questions simultaneously. :)

[Mickeymac]

You will come to a caravan city where you'll meet the guy in the steam suit and Jogurt again. To answer two of your questions simultaneously. :)


Thanks, I was afraid I missed something and would've had to do a new game.

Back to Advanced Wars, Fog of War is really annoying, I find myself being continuously bombarded by hidden enemy armor and artillery. It seems to completely defeat the purpose of strategy. Anybody got any tips on how to deal with that?

[Slayerking45]

Thanks, I was afraid I missed something and would've had to do a new game.

Back to Advanced Wars, Fog of War is really annoying, I find myself being continuously bombarded by hidden enemy armor and artillery. It seems to completely defeat the purpose of strategy. Anybody got any tips on how to deal with that?

wht mission are u on jw answer to ur question is use the flare unit they can clear a 2 spot radius in fog of war so thts ur best bet i hate fog of war too

[Mickeymac]

Let me rephrase my question: What's the best way to pinpoint an enemy indirect-attack unit?

To give an example, there's this one Trial map that has a river running down the middle, forking off and coming together again to create an island in the middle of the map. There are four bridges across the river, one at the top, one on the bottom, one to the island with a separate bridge leading to the other side. The only way to get to the enemy is to get across these bridges, but every attempt is foiled by hidden enemy Rockets and Anti-tanks. I try to use the flare gun, but I always miss and it( along with my indirect weapons) get destroyed. What's the best way to figure out where to drop the flare and take out at least a portion of his units?

[Slayerking45]

Let me rephrase my question: What's the best way to pinpoint an enemy indirect-attack unit?

To give an example, there's this one Trial map that has a river running down the middle, forking off and coming together again to create an island in the middle of the map. There are four bridges across the river, one at the top, one on the bottom, one to the island with a separate bridge leading to the other side. The only way to get to the enemy is to get across these bridges, but every attempt is foiled by hidden enemy Rockets and Anti-tanks. I try to use the flare gun, but I always miss and it( along with my indirect weapons) get destroyed. What's the best way to figure out where to drop the flare and take out at least a portion of his units?

tough question idk how to answer it umm because if there is an enemy rocket everytime you try to cross idk you must get frustrated when tht happens i say use the tanks i try to bash though or other powerful units

[Mickeymac]

i say use the tanks i try to bash though or other powerful units

Okay, I ammended that strategy a little bit: Learning from my opponent, I placed my own Rocket units at key points, preventing my opponent from making any progress, as well as using more than one flare to reveal more of the battlefield. Sadly, I'm locked in a stalemate right now, but I am building up a large force for a future invasion. It got late though, so I'll have to resume the battle for another day. So far though, it seems to be working( I haven't lost yet anyway).

[Slayerking45]

Okay, I ammended that strategy a little bit: Learning from my opponent, I placed my own Rocket units at key points, preventing my opponent from making any progress, as well as using more than one flare to reveal more of the battlefield. Sadly, I'm locked in a stalemate right now, but I am building up a large force for a future invasion. It got late though, so I'll have to resume the battle for another day. So far though, it seems to be working( I haven't lost yet anyway).

lol the invasion shall destroy them lol but you should be able to win now

[The shoemaker]

Let me rephrase my question: What's the best way to pinpoint an enemy indirect-attack unit?

To give an example, there's this one Trial map that has a river running down the middle, forking off and coming together again to create an island in the middle of the map. There are four bridges across the river, one at the top, one on the bottom, one to the island with a separate bridge leading to the other side. The only way to get to the enemy is to get across these bridges, but every attempt is foiled by hidden enemy Rockets and Anti-tanks. I try to use the flare gun, but I always miss and it( along with my indirect weapons) get destroyed. What's the best way to figure out where to drop the flare and take out at least a portion of his units?

Tats the one I'm stuck on

Okay, I ammended that strategy a little bit: Learning from my opponent, I placed my own Rocket units at key points, preventing my opponent from making any progress, as well as using more than one flare to reveal more of the battlefield. Sadly, I'm locked in a stalemate right now, but I am building up a large force for a future invasion. It got late though, so I'll have to resume the battle for another day. So far though, it seems to be working( I haven't lost yet anyway).

My plan exactly.

[Pegasus]

Fog of War is really annoying, I find myself being continuously bombarded by hidden enemy armor and artillery. It seems to completely defeat the purpose of strategy.

I beg to differ. If anything it forces a player to play even more strategically. It's all about careful advances, making the best use of the environment, and not go in all guns blazing, since, more often than not, that'll just get your ass whooped.

Just wait until you get into the later missions. Hidden indirect combat units can be a b****, but, as said, with proper planning they can be beat without too much loss. Waiting too long to amass a big force isn't the best way to go at it either because that'll give your opponent enough time to do the same, and with the enemy left unhindered he's more likely to have a better force than you.

[Mickeymac]

Waiting too long to amass a big force isn't the best way to go at it either because that'll give your opponent enough time to do the same, and with the enemy left unhindered he's more likely to have a better force than you.

Thanks for the warning, I started thinking about that. Sadly I'm pretty much at a loss then, since I really can't think of any way to win, since I can't really do anything against those indirect units, and if I even try to advance I get wiped out, so stockpiling units and charging full force seems to be my only other feasible option. I haven't played it for a while, but I think I'll hold off on that mission until I finish the campain, since I may learn of an alternative solution to that problem

[The shoemaker]

Thanks for the warning, I started thinking about that. Sadly I'm pretty much at a loss then, since I really can't think of any way to win, since I can't really do anything against those indirect units, and if I even try to advance I get wiped out, so stockpiling units and charging full force seems to be my only other feasible option. I haven't played it for a while, but I think I'll hold off on that mission until I finish the campain, since I may learn of an alternative solution to that problem

Like I said in a different post, you have to start out right, or usually all will go wrong. So just continuing from where you left off probably wont help you in winning. Plus if you do win, you'll get less points.

[Mickeymac]

Well then I'm f****ed :P

[The shoemaker]

Note to everyone. When playing this game I highly recommend using headphones, as the music sounds soooooooooooo much better. Without headphones it's kinda like thrashing music.

[Mickeymac]

Note to everyone. When playing this game I highly recommend using headphones, as the music sounds soooooooooooo much better. Without headphones it's kinda like thrashing music.

Sadly, my headphones are complete trash. They're better than my PSP's speakers, but DS games sound way worse with them. I just turned the music off.

[The shoemaker]

I find the music really good, you should look into some good headphones if your serious about DS gaming. it makes the whole experience soooo much better. Like Advance wars music is a bit too...advanced for a for normal DS speakers. Once you use headphones the music comes togther.

[Jogurt the Yogurt]

I just use my iPod headphones because they're small and white. When I'm home I sometimes use my big studio cans, but they're a bit unwieldy. :)